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Better headline, “Disney toes the line for Nazi scum, and Walt himself was a Nazi sympathiser even after Kristallnacht. EPCOT was his fascistic wet dream. Fuck Disney throughout time.”
Never heard of EPCOT before, quickly scanned over the Wikipedia article:
what’s the problem of that theme park?
Before he died, the idea of EPCOT was to create his vision of an actual city, not just a park attraction. I read a quote from him about it that seems very much in the vein of Mussolini’s idea of fascism as the fusion of corporate and state power,
“There will be no landowners and therefore no voting control. People will rent houses instead of buying them, and at modest rentals. There will be no retirees; everyone must be employed.”
Aahh, see? Now that is more problematic than the article about a folkloric world theme park I read.
But it’s also not exactly new, company towns were already a sad part of our reality. Luckily we got over it, but rich people of course always want to get back to it.
We never got over it, they just use 401ks to control our futures now, and corporate owned housing is why rents are too high for us to do anything but work, eat, scroll, and sleep. If we stop to protest we’re in danger of homelessness.
At this point there are only two rational viewpoints on the world situation.
- The system is broken and needs to be fixed
- The system is working as intended and must be destroyed
I aint exactly Robbie Rotten singing “We Are Number 1” if you catch my cold.
Oh yeah they actually did make that Disney Town, it was a dystopian nightmare and failed horribly.
You love to see a business learn to fail faster.
That sounds like communism
“Openly” as if Christians aren’t the dominant cultural and political group in the USA
Yeah, “demonstrably” or “obnoxiously” would probably be much more accurate…
I dont see how this is news there are millions of christians its not insane for one to show up in a disney movie, the trans argument is usually they are like .001% of the population but get more representation than the rest, I think its all stupid either way and the ppl making shit should be allowed to cast whatever fits their vision and not trends
It’ll be interesting to see a character following the teachings of Jesus Christ, like
- Luke 16:13 “You cannot serve both God and money.”
- Mark 10:21 “Go, sell everything you have and give to the poor”
- Matthew 5:39 “If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also.”
- Matthew 5:44 “love your enemies”
So there’s no chance the character will be a capitalist, troop-supporting, neo-Nazi. Right?
One of my personal favorites:
- Luke 12:46-48:
46 the master of that slave will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he does not know, and will cut him in pieces, and assign him a place with the unbelievers. 47 And that slave who knew his master’s will and did not get ready or act in accord with his will, will receive many lashes, 48 but the one who did not know it, and committed deeds worthy of [d]a flogging, will receive but few. From everyone who has been given much, much will be required; and to whom they entrusted much, of him they will ask all the more.
Jesus sure loved his slaves, huh? Gives you guidelines on how to beat them. Told people to “love your enemies,” but clearly people you own don’t deserve that courtesy. He hung out with prostitutes, but was never able to disavow the practice of owning other humans as property? Kind of unacceptable imo.
The canonical Bible (the supposed ordained word of god) also include’s Paul’s further interpretation of Jesus’ teachings on slaves in…
- Ephesians 6:5–8:
5 Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. 6 Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart. 7 Serve wholeheartedly, as if you were serving the Lord, not people, 8 because you know that the Lord will reward each one for whatever good they do, whether they are slave or free.
Oof.
Jesus sure loved his slaves, huh? Gives you guidelines on how to beat them.
That passage you quoted is not giving guidelines on how to treat slaves, it is a parable using slaves as an example. Not saying the Bible is totally anti slavery, the second passage being pretty disgusting.
All he had to do was say, “don’t own people,” and yet…
Not saying the Bible is totally anti slavery,
The Bible is explicitly pro-slavery. It was literally used by slavers in the 19th century American South to justify and continue the practice of chattal slavery. They printed “slave Bibles” where all mentions of anything related to “freedom” were removed, and the focus was on teaching obedience and submission.
What a thing for an “all-powerful” god to facilitate. Even if he were real and simply allowed his holy book to be used for such an evil purpose is enough for me to say “yeah, no thanks.”
Do you think that Christianity became the religion of imperialism out of coincidence?
Religion or LGBT is a false dichotomy and shit like this just fuels division.
Fuck you Disney
Really hope Jesus makes his comeback via an appearance on RuPaul. The bible does say it will be unexpected.
The stories in the bible happened long ago. There arent any prophecies reaching into our age.
(Actual inquiry, I don’t know): Really? There is no rupture or some sort of apocalyse in the new testament?
Nah, the thing that Christians claim is the antichrist was the description of Nero.
As someone that doesn’t belive in the bible, the whole antichrist being nero thing doesn’t add up. Nero reigned from 54 AD to 68 AD while the book of revelation, the one with the antichrist prophecies and that was published in 95 AD. I’ve heard the explanation that it was code, but why would they have to have code for someone that died 27 years before they wrote the code?
68 AD to 95ad is 27 years why would you count from the start.
Because math is hard. Fixed it though and point still stands.
The word antichrist isnt meantioned in the bible, only John does mention it.
The gnostic nag hamadi also mentions the antichrist and that was written at least the 2nd century. Interestingly they say the antichrist will have a female likeness which makes sense if you entertain it because if the antichrist is meant to be the complete opposite of christ, why wouldn’t they identify as female?
I feel that Mango Mussolini is very Nero-like… so does that count for anything?
Probably
That’s what the heritage Foundation is trying to achieve, yes. Trump is playing the part of the antichrist, musk is the beast. I’m mostly concerned about how they interpret “lake of fire”.
Yup. Disney doesn’t stand for anything. They just pander to wherever they think the money is.
Rainbow capitalism, I’ve looked into LGBTq+ forums, subs it hurts the community and movements more than it helps them
This one’s my favorite
Well, now they’re openly hostile instead.
See, I actually agree with a lot of people who say they hate “Woke Things”
Because 7 out of 10 times, they’re just mad at Rainbow Capitalism trying and failing to pander to “t3h gays”, but for some reason believe that “t3h gays” asked for it, when in reality we did not… the other 3 times nothing’s wrong and “Woke” is just code for “There was a black guy who did something outside of be comic relief, but if I said that aloud people would call me racist… Which I am”
its the studio execs pushing the inclusiveness, even the lgbq+ dont want it, but the cons that never watches these have been calling it woke. a great example is STD discovery, such a bad show, but everyone has been pointing how the female leads are boring asfm Kurtzman having an obssesion with pushing it for some reason.
its the studio execs pushing the inclusiveness, even the lgbq+ dont want it,
I still cringe remembering the trailer for Q-Force…
“You can’t pander to the gays, they can smell it, you’re like citibank at Pride”
Was an actual line in the trailer.
I always thought it was bold of them to include the reaction of the janitor who was taking out the trash whilst overhearing the pitch…
I have friends from all over the political spectrum, I’ve made a pyrrhic victory, a few of the right-leaning ones actually suddenly support trans rights now that the Republicans are basically treating us like Jews in Germany… the Pyrrhic part was it taking Iowa removing all civil rights from transpeople before they believed me that transpeople were the victims, not the perpatrators.
One of them ranted and raved to me about how “LGBT People wouldn’t be in this mess if they hadn’t demanded Hollywood force in all these terrible woke characters into everything!”
I had to explain to him the concept of Rainbow Capitalism and that we hated it to… He didn’t believe me until I gave him a link of Brendan Rogers mocking the shit out of it as his Bryce Tankthrust character… which I only recently learned was named Bryce Tankthrust, really thought it was Bryce Taintthrust this whole time.
Priesthood was a religious answer for gay men historically, before more modern sects that are openly accepting. The modern non-denominational Christian churches are just cancer.
I feel like these corps did a calculation and figured out everyone has an excuse to not boycott companies like Disney except right wingers who have become exceptionally good at the boycott.
In my experience those people will typically boycott brands as a group meanwhile my friends find every excuse in the book to support the major corps hurting them. Even aoc went to Florida during covid. And people wonder why they win.
Yup. Leftists Don’t have that insane person conviction. Dip shits need to learn to boycott
This leftist has boycotted everything Sony since they bricked my PC with their rootkit in the early 2000s (and I really go out of my way to make sure nothing Sony related comes in my house, not their music, movies, games, electronics, nor their camera lenses) I only slipped up once in the past 20 or so years, when I purchased a second hand Sony Walkman mp3 player. Thing broke within 3 months of use, it’s now a constant reminder that I really need to keep boycotting Sony.
I’ve started boycotting Amazon (including but not limited to Kindle, Audible, Prime and Twitch) and Disney since this year.
But I’m only one person.
I have shown myself to be capable of long term boycotts and I don’t intend to let up. I’ve added Amazon’s websites to my Pihole’s blacklist.
But I also don’t pirate their stuff. As far as I’m concerned their TV shows and movies and such don’t exist on this planet.
When They fucked me over on my PS3 linux install, I had a Sony TV, A Sony receiver, 2 Playstations and a ton of games.
They’re all long gone now.
Never again
They continue to throw money at JK Rowling at every opportunity and they’ll do the same for Disney.
They continue to throw money at JK Rowling
YMMV, but in my ‘woke’ crowd, nobody’s buying that merch anymore. The only people I know still doing harry potter themed crap all voted rightwing.
The last thing I saw come through was the game. A few of the left-leaning gamers bought it but way less than baulders and starfield.
This, in my circle the only Harry Potter merch I see people rocking is either at least a decade old or was bought at a convention at a booth selling fanmade merch.
Hogwarts legacy was a major success. Almost a million players the first day of launch and that’s only on steam.
Even now, that 2 years old game has more people playing it than Avowed which just launched relatively recently LMAO 🤣. Again, that’s only on steam.
Iw we added PSN and Nintendo, it would totally crush it
To be fair JK had nothing to do with that, that was all Avalanche Studios… and someone actually crunched the numbers and literally JK gets more in a single day of Universal Studios ticket sales than she did from lifetime sales of that game.
It certainly didn’t launch to crickets. But I could have had millions more players s***** ass worldviews to herself
And buy Teslas and use Twitter and…
Leftists are already trying to fuck megacorps over, why would they try and placate them?
Leftists are already trying to fuck megacorps over
Where?
Gestures broadly at Lemmy.
Lemmy is a niche of a niche and there are more centrists (liberals) here than leftists
What niche of a niche? Reddit is pretty mainstream now.
Everywhere?
The whole idea of leftism is to deconstruct hierarchical power structures.
mega corps are the current incarnation of exactly that.
Ideals aren’t the same as action
Fair, fully agree there.
What do you mean where? It’s literally in the name.
Lol no they are not
lol…. Yeah. I’ll bet those protests are really hitting them hard. People shouting at buildings have always been historically successful!
Pray-tell, I remember back when Vietnam ended just because people yelled at a bank in my home town. So proud of those kids!
The worst part is Conservatives actually ARE NOT good at boycotts
Just look at how badly the Bud Light boycott failed, and the reason why was because drinkers boycotted Bud Light and then started drinking… Other beers made by literally the same company.
And of course there were the people who bought Jerseys just to turn around and burn them in order to protest the NFL.
Then again I broke my own rules and ate at a Chic-Fil-A for the first time in years, because I was depressed and the thing in my head that drops sadness hormones told me it’d shut up if I got waffle fries dipped in ranch, so… You kinda still have a point
To be fair it was my first Chic-Fil-A meal in like 9 years, and on the Black Out Day I did shop yes, but I did so at a Locally Owned Chain that is owned by a Gay Guy who donates to Food Banks… Avoiding ALL gas stations despite having a quarter tank left…
But still… we all need to practice self-awareness
a shift in conservative culture
independent poll that shows 34% being against a trans character
conservative terrorists are the greatest threat domestically
I guess Nazis saying “I’ll fucking kill you and your kids you woke traitor” and then Americans being afraid to participate in democracy does qualify as a shift towards conservativism.
What if I am offended by Christian characters, something wildly inappropriate for young impressionable minds?
Don’t watch it! We should always vote what we like with our wallets. If we all do, it will all figure itself out.
Honestly it is two faces of the same coin
Yeah I’m being facetious and flipping that coin over 🙂
Corporate “allyship” at its finest.
Corporate “allyship” was all for show.
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Disney will be happy to fight for the rights of LGBT people… When it’s profitable and will not actually show up to the battle until AFTER the oppressed person has won.
Eww, yuck. I’ll pass on that one.
Did you also pass on Ms Marvel and Turning Red?
No. Their religion was just a part of their character from the beginning. They didn’t have to “come out” as religious.
The very notion that someone has to “come out” as Christian is an absurdity. Christians aren’t a persecuted group, although they would like you to think they were. They want so badly to be the victims, but they’re really the oppressor.
Disney said the same lmao
Well I did feel bad about pirating Agatha All Along but not anymore.
Never feel bad about pirating, son!
son
Come on 😮💨
She’s very obviously a woman, don’t call her “son.”
Why tf am I getting downvoted? What’s wrong with people?
I mean I know a dude whose initials are KD[last initial]. He doesn’t like his feminine first name, so he started going by Katie. KD. He just can’t win.
Yes, but you can clearly see a woman in her profile pic, combined with a girl’s name, on a trans instance, and if any of that gives you pause enough to check her profile, you’ll find it says, “sapphic. hater of capital letters. bunny and cat mum.” Just because some random guy somewhere goes by KD does not make it ok to misgender someone who is very obviously a woman.
Whoever downvoted this, come out and say it my face, coward. Fuck transphobes.
I can’t recall ever seeing a single profile pic on Lemmy. Even when clicking on a username, all I see are posts, no profile. I honestly didn’t even know there was a profile to edit. I’m primarily on Voyager.
No downvotes from me; just adding my experience to the conversation.
Anyone browsing on most mobile Lemmy apps does not see profile pics btw, so people might be downvoting because “she’s very obviously a woman” is in fact not at all obvious to mobile users.
I did not downvote btw. Am using Eternity Lemmy client.
There’s still the username. And the proper response to that situation is, “Oh, oops, I didn’t realize, let me edit my comment, thanks for bringing it to my attention.”
If I can figure out a way to view who downvoted, I will be tagging them to call them out and name and shame. I find it completely inexcusable. If they didn’t know they were in the wrong, they wouldn’t be afraid to show their faces and explain themselves.
I did vot you down and I’m also the guy who started all this.
You’re not wrong. You’re just an asshole. That’s why people vote you down.
I really want to down vote you because of your aggressiveness and off topic ranting but I’ll ask instead what about their username should tell me the user’s gender?
I downvoted you. It’s because you don’t know how to discuss topics like an adult without arrogantly insulting people.
News flash: Despite what you seem to think- no one here is beneath you. You’re just a random person on the internet- just like everyone else.
💖💖🥺
lol… you really need to pick a better hill to die on than this- “who downvoted me?! My words need to be respected!” crap. I downvote you all the time when I see you trying to get under people’s skin- which is more frequent than when you’re not.
You aggressively argue with people and refuse to accept that others see the word differently than you do. And both your modlog and your comment history proves this.
How do you see the world differently to them? Go ahead, say it
How?
Let’s see… I don’t throw temper tantrums when people downvote me. That’s one difference. I also don’t give a shit what people online think about me enough to whine that people disagreeing with me. And lastly, there’s little I find less important than what method someone uses to type shit on an Internet forum.
Most apps don’t show profile pics unless you actually go to the profile.
Then, genuine question, why do you use them?
Because I don’t care about your profile picture.
Why is it your business what they use?
Disney be like: “Friendship ended with rainbow capitalism, now christian capitalism is my best friend.”
Is being inclusive of people with cognitive reasoning disabilities a bad thing?
Now I feel even less guilty about stealing Star Wars content.
You should never feel guilty about pirating anything.
*Disnep
⅁isnep
I wonder how China will react. Plus for them: no trans character. Minus for them: replaced with Christian insurgent.
Shit, I hadn’t even considered that US/Russia/China censorship goals align so well.
Authoritarians love cracking down on minorities.
Happy cake day!
If China just goes pro LGBT, it’ll be a clear sign that despite China being China, it might be time to move to China.
That to me would be a predecessor of brain drain.
Smart people are kinky af.
“If only the oppressive government in a foreign country would stop oppressing my minority it would be a safe indicator to move there on a large scale, surely they would welcome outsiders raised on a western mindset into their homogenous society”
Who said I was LGBT?
