A lot, but please educate yourself,

Thanks for the advice.

this topic has been extensively discussed here and in other places.

This is noise, not an argument.

I dunno what’s the purpose of this comment. I asked for specific things, not for noise.

OK, so what else in your opinion can it do?

Signal doesn’t suffer anything worse than DoS if a hostile party controls the central service. That’s its point and role. It’s based on the assumption that such hostile parties as governments don’t like DoS’ing central services, they prefer to be invisible.

For other points and roles other solutions exist. One can’t make an application covering them all, that never happens.

Briar again (I’ve finally read on it and installed it, and I love how it works and also the authors’ plans on the future possibilities based on the same protocols, but not for IM, say, there’s an article discussing possibility of RPC over those, which, for example, can give us something like the Web ; I mean, those plans are ambitious and if I want them to succeed so much, I should look for ways to defeat my executive dysfunction and distractions and learn Java). Except it would be cool if it allowed to toss data over untrusted parties, say, now if two Briar users in the same group are not in each other’s range, but there’s a third Briar user not in that group between them, their group won’t synchronize (provided they don’t have Internet connectivity). If one could allow allocating some space for such piggybacked data, or create some mesh routing functionality, then it would become a bit cooler.

Yes, so like 12 years ago I was thinking - maybe they won’t do such bad things, maybe it’s a purely hypothetical possibility, surely someone will catch them outright spying.

Yet suppose that back then Zuck rolled out an update with hidden functionality to spy at some underage girl, and then rolled it back. Who would check every FB application update? And if the hidden functionality looked enough like a bug (matching only a handful of device IDs of millions), then who’d become suspicious? There have been many updates with many bugs.

And Zuck surely behaves as if such thing happened many times.

I just hope more people in Russia will switch to Briar, it IMHO seems to have all the necessary Telegram-like functionality other than channels, votes, video uploading … But that’s probably intended, too much data to synchronize. Text and pics are a lot.

I’ve read that MAX (typical horse taste of modern Russian official names, similar to Rosgvardia, Gosuslugi, Rostech and so on ; Soviet-time many-many-many caps abbreviations are boring, but somehow better) in its current early versions is a piece of spyware looking like Telegram, literally saving passwords and banking data and browsing history. Well, I’m almost certain Telegram itself is not much better.

Installed Briar on my phone and persuaded my sister, and to my grandma’s today.

It makes perfect sense, the resistance of having Windows legacy software etc becomes smaller the more of that goes out of use, the resistance of everyone only knowing Windows becomes smaller with nobody even knowing Windows, and the resistance of corporate interests becomes smaller because it’s all in the Web, and the Web has been corrupted and Chrome works on Linux.

So. Listen to me carefully. If Linux domination happens without FreeBSD and Haiku normalization, then things are bad.

OK, so now it’s important to create collegial democratic project government for Linux, and freeze Linus in carbonite as a memorial. Before Linux has become too important, and before Linus lost his marbles to become a geriatric dictator.

Actually in the age of Android I think it’s already too late, but this should be done regardless.

They also say and substantiate that the casino always wins, but people still go to casinos. More than half would go to casinos if they had enough money and a casino in convenient proximity, probably.

(Yeah, about Bitcoin - that’s the genial idea of using casino tokens as means of normal exchange and as an investment asset. The value attributed to Bitcoin grows faster for those with bigger sums and transfers and in bigger pools and with better information for prediction of its fluctuations. That would be the founders with their sleeper coins, and also not sleeping coins long ago mixed out of possibility to trace them. The result stands.)

So. The computer industry has been turned into a casino. The visitors were first upset, then suspicious, then kinda disoriented, and then got used to it.

Addiction is the source of enormous profits in our world, between drugs, prostitution and gambling. Now the Internet has become part of it.

Which is not an unprecedented change. There were times when drugs (in the form of maryjane and other weeds and various mushrooms and alcohol) were possible to make for anyone and not prosecuted on most of the planet, and not an industry. There were times when prostitution was not an industry, but just a normal situation. There were also times when it didn’t make sense for gambling itself to be an industry (making gambling cards and such was, though).

To good or to ill.

One can clearly see that when these industries are transparent and competitive and legal, they are not harmful. One can also see that it’s very hard to make them transparent and competitive and legal. Transparency hurts cheaters. Competition hurts abusers. Legality hurts people like the competent structures in most countries getting their share.

So, IRL there are “haven” countries with laws legalized for certain things and with proper regulation in place, and the rest where such things serve the previously listed trio.

For the Internet this would be a really sad situation.

So honestly Briar and other multi-transport offline-ready delay-tolerant systems are the future IMHO. But it’s a long evolutionary process.

I dunno, Java to native code compilers exist. Maybe one can compile Bramble into that with some interface wrapper, and then use it under iOS, but I don’t know what the hell I’m talking about.

Russians are typically more tech savvy than you would expect.

Well, as someone living in Russia, I don’t really feel this so much

Is “better than Zuck” a valid argument?

Well, that Bitchat thing of his may (after, eh, fixing a lot of it) turn to be not so bad.

Though I went to the Briar site, and apparently it’s not just Briar, but also a framework for virtually everything communications-wise offline-enabled.

Why is he so hated here? Twitter model is one thing that is kinda fit for global-open-decentralized approaches without much difference for the user. I could never use it, but plenty of people do and seem to have a feeling of hivemind over it.

I’m not sure he’s the one who fucked it up.

140 symbols and the whole atmosphere I don’t like, but I have my own fair set of disorders.

Hashtags are honestly a good idea, just like a social system organized around them.

Except I probably would prefer that to be similar to modernized Usenet. Actually going to pressure my family members to install Briar, want to start using it, and apparently it has such a functionality. Not sure yet. Anyway, the framework under it (right now Briar itself is the only application, but authors have ambitions) definitely would support such a thing. Maybe I’ll finally have an incentive to learn Android development.

Oh my God, I cannot imagine living with a hoarder. I have problems with collecting things, but I certainly don’t hoard things.

Kinda similar. I have construction materials or junk laying around for long, but in general places under my exclusive control are kinda livable. If chaotic a bit.

I have a friend who is a hoarder and she has lost the use of her bathroom recently.

That’s the main reason for the rack in the bathroom. To be able to maybe sometimes shower normally. Two things - 1) place to put stuff so that it wouldn’t fall down, 2) no place to hang plastic bags filled with various crap.

She has to shower at the gym. Every day, she drives to the gym in the morning and take a shower.

Been close to that.

I just cannot imagine living in that world.

I think you’ve just did, judging by the emotion.

I don’t know how you do it.

Counting days, months and years of wasted life.

I would lose my damn mind.

Achievement completed long ago.

When at school, I was being told this is illegal. Public offering and all that.

That is, I wouldn’t mind with something like ancap in place (to preserve things like competition and privacy), but I see no good things from ancap being implemented anywhere, while the bad things seem to not be meeting any resistance at all.

So, 1) how’s this legal, 2) … oh, have read in the comments that it’s still not. Thanks.

(No help, just sharing)

Seems like my life. Except I live with my mom and she’s a hoarder. I’ve assembled three metal racks in place of piles of stuff where those were unbearable. So - I had some place where I wanted to stick the fourth, except I can’t remember what it was, it doesn’t seem to fit anywhere (racks are a desperate measure, actually furniture should only be thrown out here). And the usual with getting perpetually distracted from work (at least I kinda get it done).

Yeah, but not about utterly degenerate webpage design

OK, it just has utterly degenerate webpage design. I thought those were voluntary additions by users telling what they use, not common format. Inconvenient.

Yes, I do that too, except different things work and don’t. And making tweaks for Proton in Steam seems more bother.