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    Prior to fatally shooting Sarey, Nelson killed Isaiah Obet in 2017. Obet was acting erratically, and Nelson ordered his police dog to attack. He then shot Obet in the torso. Obet fell to the ground, and Nelson fired again, fatally shooting Obet in the head. Police said the officer’s life was in danger because Obet was high on drugs and had a knife. The city reached a settlement of $1.25 million with Obet’s family.

    In 2011, Nelson fatally shot Brian Scaman, a Vietnam War veteran with mental issues and a history of felonies, after pulling Scaman’s vehicle over for a burned-out headlight. Scaman got out of his car with a knife and refused to drop it; Nelson shot him in the head. An inquest jury cleared Nelson of wrongdoing.

    This guy murdered 3 people by shooting them in the head. What, do we have a 3 strikes rule for police murder now? 3 times and you’re out?

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      I think at the moment it’s if they’re convicted the punishment is a violent death in prison since our prison system is at least as dog shit as any other part of the justice system.

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    The big red flag for me is the Mjölnir tat with the Orthala rune on his abdomen. Its one of the stranger ways of claiming they have some sort of pure Aryan herratage ethno-nationalists are often fans of using.

    To put it another way, this guy is as neo-nazi as they come.

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      The Spread Eagle, the Nordic helmets, Nordic rune, and the Blood Eagle wings on the back…

      The saying on the hands is common to the military, and references how they’re going to make a call if something is 50/50. Without knowing if he served I can’t judge that. But he’s just a civilian then it’s pretty screwed up.

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        If the complete tat is along the lines of: “it’s better to be tried by 12 than carried by 8”, it’s been familiar to law enforcement circles (which circles the drain with ex-military, so not surprising) for a long time. When I was in college in a criminal justice program, several instructors repeated this over and over (except I believe it was “… carried by 6”.

        I didn’t stay in that program, BTW.

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          It is supposed to be carried by 6. But it’s also supposed to reference a war zone. Not policing where upholding the law is the mission.

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          For fuck’s sake these dicks really think they’re in some kind of war. That’s a military saying, from a place where driving down the street was a roll of the dice and a firefight was a matter of when, not if, every day.

          If that’s what they think policing is then we really need to just fire them now.

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    Holy crap, this was the third person the officer had shot in the head while on duty. This guy was a serial killer in a uniform.

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      I just watched a documentary on John Wayne Gacy. He said the reason he loved being a clown is because:

      “nobody judges you if you’re a clown. You can grab and pick up women, and they just laugh. You can put handcuffs on anyone as a magic trick, and they just trust you. You could get away with murder, and nobody would look at you twice.”

      Which is even more chilling when you realize he used to ask teenage boys to put handcuffs on, and they did. He playfully put a noose on their necks, and they let him. And he killed them without resistance.

      And cops didn’t suspect him because he was an upstanding member of the community. He was a local politician, and he entertained children by being a clown.

      So it’s kind of the same thing. Gacy wore a clown uniform, and nobody suspects. This cop wears a blue uniform, and no one suspects. But in both cases, it’s just a set of clothing. It doesn’t help or change the person wearing it.

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    His fat ass needs to be Carried by 8 ppl??? The phrase is carried by 6 This guy is an idiot.

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    Motherfucker literally got huge angel wings tattooed on his back. That’s some massive guilt compensation.

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      Along with the other tattoos? Those are blood eagle wings. Common Nazi shit.

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    Is there anything particular about his tattoos that I should be offended by? I mean they’re poorly done and some are edgey, but so are most people’s tattoos.

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      “Punish the Deserving” suggests an urge to inflict punishment, maybe even pain or death, on those you you personally deem deserving. “Judged by XII and Carried by VIII” is about how you would rather be Judged in court by 12 jurors for crimes than be dead and carried by 8 pallbearers. That’s not in itself an uncommon opinion, probably, but to get it tattooed explicitly suggests a fixation on the idea. It suggests that they value their life over upholding the law and will take whatever means necessary to preserve their life even to the point of deserving to be tried for their actions, which is not a great mindset in a person trusted to put themselves in danger and uphold the law. “Only evil need fear me. The shadow is mine and so is the valley.” Again this gives the impression of a fixation with dealing fear and retribution to those he judges as evil. “One day as a lion” is a part of a longer quote from Fascist dictator Mussolini, “better to live one day as a lion than 100 years as a sheep” and is about being a victimizer rather than a victim. That is all on top of the connection between the far right and Nordic tattoos mentioned by others.

      None of those sentiments in itself is incriminating or anything. But they do shed light on the general mindset and worldview of the officer in question that, paired with his actions (multiple instances of shooting people in the head), can suggest a criminal intent or liklihood to repeat his criminal actions.

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        Eagles were a symbol of the Roman Empire and every would-be successor. Mussolini’s entire deal boiled down to restoring Rome. Pigs in particular like to jerk off about how many different police forces they had, and the invention of law and order and such.

        His lower paunch is Thor’s hammer, not Celtic. Even besides the Nazi love of Germanic mythology, modern neopagan Asartu is riddled with fascists, like the maggoty corpse of a dead religion it is.

        You take either of these things in a vacuum and it’s probably fine. You put it all together and the portrait is far different.

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          I fucking hate how the far right is co-opting germanic and nordic mythological symbolism. They have some cool as shit imagery and now you look like a nazi if you display it.

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          I kinda hate how even today, German heraldry uses the eagle. I get that it descends from the “Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation” and doesn’t strictly have anything to do with the fash, but I can’t look at it and not see all the things that were done under that sign. Not to mention that Rome itself wasn’t a squeaky clean bastion of morality and democracy either.

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      They’re all pretty shite but the only thing that stood out to me is that he has Mjölnir on his stomach and that (along with other Norse and pagan symbols) is sometimes used by White Nationalists/Neo-Nazis.

      If he weren’t who he was I’d probably give him the benefit of the doubt.

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      Some Nordic symbols are co-opted by the far right, but a single mjolnir isn’t proof of anything. It’s entirely possible he’s merely a garden variety shithead.

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        Combined with the Nordic helmets, spread winged eagle, the lion armor and blood eagle wings on the back… He is garden variety, just Nazi flavor.

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      Just looks like a regular old god complex to me. Probably not favorable for a jury at your murder trial to believe that you feel 100% beyond reproach. Spider webs are also often associated with gangs. Fairly reasonable to hide.

      Edit: dis my 999th comment. I’d like to thank my ibs and insomnia for helping me attain this grand achievement.

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        Let’s not stigmatize people who get a lot of ink. And I say that as someone who has no tattoos.

        It’s not about the fact that he has tattoos or even that he has tattoos that you think make him look like a gang member.

        It’s about what those tattoos show about him. Tattoos are an expensive and painful form of expression. You generally don’t get them unless it’s something important to you. Tattoos that say things like “punish the deserving” are going to look really fucking bad when you’re a cop that committed murder.

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        There’s actually a large portion of really good officers that are all tatted up. It all depends on the content, how they get presented, and how the person carries themselves.

        They could be from from the military and the officer is an experienced veteran. Law enforcement tends to be a common occupation after discharge, especially as they’re usually immune to acorns.

        They could also be someone who grew up on the “wrong” side and eventually found their way out. Now, they want to improve their old stomping grounds and help other at-risk kids find their own path.

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          Found their way out to… What, a more official gang? He’s not doing anything good here. None of them are.

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            So, what you are implying is that anyone who was ever affiliated with gang activity is a lost cause. And, who could never provide invaluable moral guidance to help improve a city in a much less aggressive, mentor-like capacity.

            Do you also think that the idea of reform while under lock up (where the majority of tattooing comes from) isn’t possible? Maybe we should execute all criminals, right?

            Sounds like you’ve lived a very sheltered life and have no idea what really goes on, aside from what is on the news. Sometimes people get involved with gangs (incl. in incarceration) as it may be one of the only methods of survival available to them. You just can’t judge by appearance alone.

            Oh, and heads up. The comment about tattoos was indeed what Maggoty mentioned, and about the generality of them, and not specifically about the guy from the OP.

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              No, I’m saying the police are no better, arguably worse, than a gang. They’re pretty much a state run gang. They left a life of being a gangster, to be a state run gangster.

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          It never ceases to amaze me what kind of mental contortions people will perform to rationalize obvious malfeasance. Do you think the job of the police is to punish people?

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          I died at “immune to acorns”.

          But seriously, we aren’t super human. And police departments are very oppressive with their expected outcomes. I knew guys that came back to the military because police departments fired them for de-escalation. I also knew guys that got fired for using their weapons too much. Veterans run the gamut and there’s plenty who are happy to settle right into a bad department.

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      I didn’t see anything egregiously “white power” (barring the edgy police bullshit), but I assume that while the general public (a jury) are ok with tattoos these days, there’s still a specific image in their mind of what kind of person has this much coverage.

      I have nothing to back that up. It’s just a feeling. They wouldn’t let me on the jury because I hate cops, but I don’t give a shit about his tattoos as long as they’re edgy and not hateful.

      Edit: clarification.

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    Is this one person or two? The hands are clear in uniform but from the back picture you can clearly see a different set of tattoos on the back of the hands.

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      Yeah that’s a bit strange, the design goes down to his fingers along the outside of the back of the hand in the shirtless photos.

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        You can see something on the side of his left hand like it was covered in makeup or a temporary tattoo coming off? Very strange.

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        Viking culture isn’t exclusive to a specific ethnic or racial group… Kind of weird that you’d associate Viking culture with Neo-Nazis exclusively.

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            Bro there’s an idiot who commented that blood wings is exclusively associated with Nazis lmao…

            If you’re anglo-saxon and don’t even know Viking history, Viking culture, that’s your problem.

            What’s next? Braided hair is exclusive to Black culture? LOL

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                Doesn’t matter to me, it’s going to catch the attention of many readers. And out of those readers, it will pique their (1, 10, 100 readers) interest and hopefully they take the time to unplug from the simulation you’re enslaved to, do their research and realize they’ve been shaped and molded by degenerates of every kind under the sun.

                Stay salty.