It’s also a bit rich that the Chinese dude gets labeled by X as ‘state affiliated media’ (which it probably is) but X itself apparently not? Which it definitely is.
This whole screenshot is basically one state’s propaganda machine vs. another.
Just because the Chinese propaganda machine is acting the straight man in this particular interaction, doesn’t mean they don’t have skeletons in their own closet
A broken clock something something.
Yo very unrelated, but thank you for mentioning that phrase “skeletons in their own closet”! I’ve been listening to a song for a few months which uses that metaphor and I couldn’t exactly figure out what it meant (it’s in Greek and didnt expect that phrase to exist in english too). (This is the song if you care, lol.)
Germans have corpses in their basement.
I’ve seen that in English as well, as a more empathetic version of skeletons in the closet.
It exists in French too
Yeah, while I agree with some of his jabs - it is immensely ironic that China is #1 in two of mentioned anti-US criticisms.
Go figure two assholes in a room and no one smells good
And now you’re here!
To be fair, we have no idea how many COVID infections or deaths China had or how many prisoners they have. It isn’t like they are the most transparent with either matter.
Everything else he said checks out. 🇺🇲
We have 2 million prisoners for 330 million people.
They claim 1.6 million prisoners for their 1.4 billion people.
Even if it were double what China claims, per capita we keep far more of our people in bondage, because we found and disgustingly prioritize the private profit in it. More prisoners for private for profit prisons, and more slave labor leased out to for profit corporations.
We put people in cages using any excuse to increase quarterly earnings expectations for our sociopath class. “Land of the free,” Lo fucking L.
It’s “Land of the fee”
We’ve been saying it wrong the whole time.
Would you like to buy the R? That will be one soul please
All the R have been bought and paid for. So have most of the D, for that matter.
“Lan_ of the f_ee”
Oh… Oh! That makes sense.
It would be flatly unsurprising if china had well over double what they claim.
At this point I trust their government and our government equally.
As an American, I would take the word of any single European union member nation over the word of both China and the US claiming anything in unison.
Orbán likes this post.
The fucks in the republic party literally invited Orbán to have a speech and how to get shit done, US is not even first at effectively controlling state media and politicians bleeding it’s country dry
Sometimes I forget that Hungary is part of the EU. And that Hungary and Turkey are part of NATO. It’s the kind of thing I don’t like remembering.
At least China has the guts to call out the West for supporting the genocide in Gaza, something out own Democratic party seems wholly incapable of.
It is easy calling out genocides from other nations.
Call me when they talk about their own genocides.
Ignore their own genocide against muslims, focus on the Jews.
Even in that regard, reeducation camps are better than for-profit prisons. They have different goals in mind.
Forced labor and indoctrination compared to just forced labor. If we start calling for profit prisons time-out zones with chores will that placate you?
The number of imprisoned is the point he made, not the per capita.
Yeah, everyone knows the US has more people per capita
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They had robots spraying disinfectant on streets. They would test and barricade people in homes who were positive. They would also feed them though. Whole city quarantines. They did not fuck around on Covid. It’s reasonable that not fucking around achieved a low death rate. It shows how much richer they really are compared to west in being able to afford such measures.
Who told you that the US government?
Neither country really has a leg to stand on here. China sucks too.
Taiwan #1!
I think China will.take the Taiwan #1 and use it as an argument that they, in fact, are #1
I came here to write “Elise Stefanik is a moron”, but then I noticed Chen already called her an idiot. What an embarrassment to NY-21 congressional district (thankfully not mine). I love going up to the Adirondacks, but man is it MAGA country now.
Last summer, I noticed the print on demand t-shirt shop in Old Forge that has been there since at least the 80s is now run by magats. They had a row of anti-LGBTQ shirts and the usual Joe Biden hatred crap on display and I just walked out. I’m so tired of people making everything political and wearing it on their sleeves, sometimes literally.
I’m so tired of people making everything political and wearing it on their sleeves, sometimes literally.
I prefer my Nazis out in the open. Uniformed combatants are fair game
I may not like the CCP, but you have to give credit to where it is due. The government is run by pragmatic technocrats with long term vision. These are the characteristics that America has lost long ago. It is so ironic and funny that it is China who is the promoter now of international free trade.
Holy shit no.
The CCP is mostly controlled by Xi Jinping, and he’s happy to purge anyone who gets in his way, since 2012 and continuing today. He’s also forcing compliance at every level — from disappearing Jack Ma for the mildest of CCP criticism to enforcing a blackout of tianamen square in their ai models. He is much closer to Putin than Trump.
This same control-freak policy applies to their trade. Want to do business in china? Be prepared to set up a 50/50 joint stock company. Want to move money out of the country? Good luck, 50k/year max. This is why so many Chinese buy foreign property, they are trying to move assets outside the reach of the CCP. It’s also why China turns a blind eye to the fent trade — it weakens the US and provides a valuable source of hard (ie cash) currency for China.
Don’t get it twisted, the CCP is run by authoritarians with little tolerance for dissent, not wise technocrats building a better China.
Chinese belt and road initivate can nearly be called free trade.
Yes, CCP is authoritarian, but the party has long term vision for the country. Because they don’t want to revert back to the so-called century of humiliation when China became technologically behind and had been carrion feeds for outside powers. The country had been isolationist which made Imperial China weak, but the CCP decided to open up and use international free trade to assert their own influence, instead of being controlled by it like before. Much of CCP’s decision making is influenced by historical trauma, as well as from Confucian idea of mandate of heaven-- that the ruling government is only legitimate so long as they can deliver for the people.
So even though Xi cracks down on dissent, he is open to ideas when it comes to technological advancements and pushes his subordinates to keep up. And as we can see, Deep Seek had beaten Western AI development at a fraction of the cost, and China is leading in manufacturing electric vehicles and battery and other renewable technologies. Millions of Chinese had been lifted out of poverty, and the older generations still remember the hardship and the war so many Chinese feel grateful. Xi wants the CCP to prove to the population that only they can deliver progress. But as you pointed out, there is a cost to all of this.
The CCP long term vision isn’t for China and Chinese citizens, it is entirely for the CCP.
China is the CCP. That’s how a 1-party state works
There are definitely Chinese people who are not in the CCP. And who risk their lives opposing them.
Just being pedantic regarding the AI models; they’re only censored on the publicly hosted versions. Like any other model if you run it locally you’re only restricted by the model’s training
Nope, running locally still has censorship issues, just not as much
Your article literally proves my point
Just because you will be purged for making Winnie the Pooh references, doesn’t mean you are not allowed to make suggestions to improve China, or that Xi is Idi Amin taking all wealth of the country for himself. There exists an intellectual party that is capable of removing him if they thought he was acting inappropriately. Sure, capital controls is a restriction on the rich in China, but that doesn’t make it a shithole country pillaged by oligarchs, like some.
FWIW, I HATE the CCP. Though they do keep China from being all it could be which could be bad for other countries.
Dont forget them avoiding war for however many decades, while america fabricates them for profit.
I guess taking over Tibet and the ongoing Uyghur genocide just don’t matter.
Well I’ll just have to take your word for it won’t I?
Compared to the West, China has very little appetite for expansionism. Except for South China Sea, China only wants to conquer areas they deemed to be historically theirs. For the most part, China’s current foreign policy is to recreate the tributary system for the modern era to make foreign nations beholden to them.
The circus is in town! Two clowns duking it out in the digital colosseum: one’s waving a flag, the other’s throwing shit. Meanwhile, we’re all fucked sideways by the system they represent. But sure, keep tweeting your little hearts out while Rome burns. At least the engagement’s good, right? Christ, we’re so far down the rabbit hole, Alice would need a fucking space shuttle to find us… Pass the soma, I’m checking out.
China’s system is better than the US’s
Nowhere close lol
Give some examples of how Americas system is better?
China is a paper tiger economy built upon slave labor, fast consumerism, and environmental destruction. If and when such cultural habits change the consumer economy will collapse, and that’s with believing the fake numbers the Chinese government releases. Along with population decline and the top heavy population caused by the one child policy, the economy will stagnate even further.
China is 15-20 years behind on the technology curve for domestic research and production. Their current technology base is literally copied from the rest of the world.
Politically, massive degradation of rights and freedoms for citizens, civil rights violations against minorities, the religious, and the political opposition. They have actual concentration camps, not just detainment centers in the US people bring up.
China has one leg up on the US with a comprehensive health coverage… if you avoid being a forced organ donor for the elite.
Lol a lot of the stuff you said describing China is also describing the US. The real difference is the US has a better marketing department. Remember when the kindly pilgrims became best friends with the Indians in America?
I have a theory that America already was the “Nazis” back when they committed a genocide on native americans, except America never got stopped like the Nazis did.
Not a lot of that accurately describes America currently. And if we want to reach into history, China has a history or destroying a group of people to replace them with Han Chinese, and it is still currently happening.
No, both are bad, you don’t want a social credit system
Joke’s on this guy, US is first at all of those!
Taiwan #1!
Aka; the rightful government of the entirety of China. May Taipei occupy Beijing once more
Occupy or liberate? I would say liberate, right?
I think it’s perfectly fair to prioritize yourself first. Politicians should do that.
But why does she want China last? That’s just hatred.
I remember when political news were pictures of people shaking hands and making trade agreements. These days it’s all screenshots of social media posts made from someone hiding in a basement or gated community. Trump refusing to answer a telephone call from Canada while using his phone to tweet out more bullshit is a new low.
American politics might be two sided team game, but international politics are not. Unfortunately for the republicans, they desperately need an opponent to make themselves relevant. They simply don’t have anything else to offer.
Casual racism is very American.
After “gun violence”, he should’ve added “gun violence against children”.
What, you mean you don’t like a thousands children dying from gun violence every year!?
I always like to compare with Japan. Japan had 0 children killed by guns in 2021 and the US had 2,590. Almost half of US parents worry about their children being shot.
as a canadian, i think it’s pretty safe to say the US is not first in much these days.
things have changed. a lot.
What are you talking about? He literally listed a bunch of things we’re first at!
Have you seen our defense budget?
Populism FIRST. FFY
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I do not like this meme much. I grew tired of stock photos for “r/clevercomebacks”.
