Weird that I got this:
Apple changed it too? I literally had a coworker gloat about how they’re glad they switched to apple since their iPhone would NEVER do that bc Apple is an “ethical company”.
It’s still Gulf of Russia on Yandex maps. JK, it’s Галф оф Мексико
They are trying to drill it into people’s head until the name becomes normalised and accepted.
Meanwhile Google wont even update street adresses that are 10+ years wrong ffs
The place to protest this isn’t Google.
We need to have everyone propose a name change to the official body in charge of place names, the US Board on Geographic Names.
Unfortunately, one of the rules on name changes is “Changing a name merely to correct or re-establish historical usage is not in and of itself a reason to change a name.”
On the other hand, they also say “The most important consideration is local use and acceptance,” so the sooner we act, the better.
Here’s a link to the form they want you to fill out: https://d9-wret.s3.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/assets/palladium/production/s3fs-public/media/files/DNC_ProposalForm.pdf
Thanks for following up on my comment with the most important link!
In my submittal, my reasoning also included the fact that the change to “Gulf of America” didn’t follow the official process.
Surely more fully the “Intellectual Gulf of America”.
I still think the name is apt, as “America” refers to the entire super-continent, North and South.
In accordance with the more appropriate name for the great Gulf, I hereby propose that all Mexicans become also known as Americans, and all people from the United States henceforth become known as “USians”.
I further propose this confer full, nay, enhanced US citizenship to all Americans. If they even want that shit anymore.
This caused me to delete Google Maps, but their removal of Black History month from Google Calendar is what’s making me contemplate migrating everything else away from them…
I started last week. Been contemplating doing it for a while and this whole disgusting series of events pushed me over the edge.
Cancelled every paying google services I had and I’ve been replacing their apps with alternatives slowly but surely.
For now it looks like this on my phone
- Tidal replaces youtube music
- Tom Tom replaced Waze unless I find something better
- Back to using firefox instead of chrome with google / Facebook tracking blocking extensions and more
- Got a proton mail and in the process of moving everything that matters to it
Only thing I would love that I can’t get right now is an alternative OS for my phone that I don’t have to tinker a lot with, I know rhey exist but everything I read on the subject basically says: don’t bother. Setting up Endeavour OS on my laptop is already a lot of work for a 42 year old Linux noob like me, even though it’s far from the most complicated distro from what I understand…
I also set another launcher on my smart tv, deactivated all the google accounts that I could and I’m in the process of setting up a plex server on my laptop which I’ll fill with loot from the High Seas. It’s really stupid of them because I was fine paying for the convenience of streaming but now I’m gonna make a point of not doing it and I’ll probably never gonna come back.
Next, I need to figure out how to migrate my website / domain out of google but that’s a next week problem. By the end of the winter, I should be properly google / Microsoft free.
It’s a harsh process I’m not gonna lie but it is very rewarding even though, I don’t lie to myself about the fact that it’s just another drop in the bucket and it’s not gonna change much in the end but at least I live better with myself by doing it.
There’s some recent controversy with proton mail. And I thought Google domains was sold to squarespace?
Ah damn… What’s good then? I’m not too far in my setup that I can’t make a switch again.
And yeah you’re right, Google domain is squarespace but my whole setup is using their tools and I also want to move everything out of the usa, preferably to Canada as I’m Canadian but I’ll settle for Europe when nothing is available here.
If you can, add a 1-star review in Play Store for Google Maps while you’re at it. And a comment why.
I did the commenting, they deleted my review for “politics”.
Same, I wish I could do this for work, as we use G Suite :(. Times like these make me appreciate open source alternatives though, but there’s a lot of work to make those tools more widely available.
Even the german language version does this now.
How long until the US pull a China and attack mexican fishing boats?
Google has had to deal with disputed place names a number of times.
There’s the Sea of Japan which has the parenthesized name “East Sea”, which I think is only used in Korea.
There’s the Persian Gulf sometimes known as the Arabian gulf.
There’s the Falkland Islands which the Argentinians refer to as Islas Malvinas.
What’s really dumb about this is that it goes directly against the old policy (from 2008) where they said:
When our policy says that we display the “primary, common, local” names for a body of water, each of those three adjectives has an important and distinct meaning. By saying “primary”, we aim to include names of dominant use, rather than having to add every conceivable local nickname or variation. By saying “common”, we mean to include names which are in widespread daily use, rather than giving immediate recognition to any arbitrary governmental re-naming. In other words, if a ruler announced that henceforth the Pacific Ocean would be named after her mother, we would not add that placemark unless and until the name came into common usage.
But, the Gulf of “America” is not in common usage anywhere. Canada should see only “Gulf of Mexico”, even though it shares a language with the country that officially renamed it to “Gulf of America”. And in particular Germany shouldn’t see anything about “Amerika” because that’s just not a thing in any German-speaking country.
Really, it should be Gulf of America (Gulf of Mexico) in the US and whatever the local name is everywhere else.
I was crucified when I compared the two on an authoritarian leftist instance I shall not name, but I think people here can agree that despite having very different colours and propaganda, they both are both converging with the facist side of the spectrum.
They’ve disabled posting too:
I was curious about Open Street Maps, since anyone can edit it.
Gulf of America comes up specifically as an official name for US, and there is also a note about how if you change the English name without agreement in the discussion then it will be reverted:
Discussion is here: https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/gulf-of-america-gulf-of-mexico/124571
It seems the general consensus is that the US have that as an official name, but it’s not the common English name so name:en stays as the Gulf of Mexico.
I was very happy to open up organic maps and see it still listed as Mexico.
I’m still trying to get out of Google maps.
OSM ftw
The more quickly the world decouples from the US, the better.
“In the movies the USA always saves the world, but in real life the world has to be saved from the USA”.
And for the citizens, the sooner we can decouple from billionaires the better.
They really are fucking everything up. Every billionaire in this country needs to be de-billionaired. It’s going to likely come down to the people doing this at this rate.
decouple them from life
China world love to come in and fill this gap. But who will keep the shipping lanes free of piracy? They have the world’s largest navy.
who will keep the shipping lanes free of piracy?
You know the US isn’t patrolling the shipping lanes they don’t use right?
Also, no, they never managed to keep the shipping lanes free of piracy.
eh, they aren’t that different
For now
Will prices start going down now?
Of course. The name written on the map is what was keeping that huge inflation there on the US at 2%/y.
In all seriousness, periods of marked deflation are generally not economically prosperous times. The economy deflated more than 20% between 1929 and 1936. But we don’t call that period in time “The Really Cool American Price Drop.” It goes by another name I can’t think of right now, and it’s making me feel greatly depressed.
We shouldn’t be fighting for lower prices. We should be fighting for better wages that track with prices over time.
No, we should also be fighting for lower prices.
It’s just that the way we achieve them is with price controls. Stop letting profiteers take as much as they want.
Funnily enough at a macro scale the economy was in super good shape as trump took office with all economic indicators pointing upward. Wages grew by over 4% year over year while inflation was less than 3% meanwhile the price increases that were seen over 2021-2023ish were either rolled back or otherwise ceased being increased. Trump could literally do nothing, let the existing trends play out over 4 years and retire with an economy worth bragging about.
Obviously he’s not going to and is enacting explicitly inflationary policies, so we’re likely to see more hyperinflation within the next few years
Organic Maps is cool.
No, don’t use the sexy meme template for this change. It’s just a dumb dick measuring move. It doesn’t deserve that honor.
The tuba meme would be appropriate.
