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How many times in our history are Americans going to get duped into hating people they never even interact with and know nothing about?
None of these people know trans people. These morons have just been conditioned to hate them regardless of not even knowing them. It’s pathetic. They’ve never been hurt, or even inconvenienced by a trans person. Bigot fucks.
Cool unsourced/debunked fabrication from a literal tabloid, took me all of two minutes to find this, after looking for an actual source, when the OP-linked article didn’t have one:
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-reported-transgender-military-plan-called-out-charity-1991052
Confirmation bias is a hell of a drug. For shame.
Oh well newsweek says that the biggest pack of liars the world has ever seen says they won’t do it. Nothing to worry about folks!
Trump’s transition team denied that any decisions on the issue had been made. Spokeswoman Karoline Leavitt told Newsweek that the unnamed sources “are speculating and have no idea what they are actually talking about.”
“No decisions on this issue have been made. No policy should ever be deemed official unless it comes directly from President Trump or his authorized spokespeople,” she said.
Confirmation bias is a hell of a drug. For shame.
Is it confirmation bias when I know Trump and his team are gigantic liars so I’m not quite going to rule out this very-on-brand policy that they are pre-denying until he’s in office and it doesn’t happen?
MTG believes they are going to do it according to the same article, but I acknowledge she’s got the brainpower of a squirrel, so I’m not putting much stock in that.
Well I hope you’re right. After reading your comment I went to check sources for this story on Ground News. The original source sense to be a paywalled article in The Times which I can’t read. There are many other sources but they’re not what you’d call top tier, and they may all be feeding off each other (see screenshot below). So yes, there seems to be hope that this is false.
Oh no please don’t send highly trained members of our military home where they can protect and train their fellow Americans!
Looks like well-regulated militias are back on the menu
I’m under the impression it would devastate the livelihood of those people.
Unfortunately this is probably true, I’m sure they will find a way to take away their veteran’s benefits as well. :(
Ahh, yes. Purging the armed forces. Nothing sinister about that. Just restoring the professional military service.
I mean outside of America we are still going to all let this happen. We are all marching straight into WW3 like the “this is fine” meme.
Should we survive as a species I look forward to 50 years from now where America adopts strong anti-facism laws like Germany has.
Question is, who is the good guy in this new world we are entering?
FWIW as a Canadian we are so fucked. America is going to come knocking for our resources soon and we won’t be able to say no.
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Head between my legs and pray tbh lol
I kinda look at it less like WW2 repeat but the fall of Rome.
Either way we are screwed though. The emperor has no clothes.
You may want to consider getting involved with a local mutual aid group. The connections you make now will likely pay off in the future.
Oh I’m not worried about me or mine. I’m confident I can keep 1 step ahead of this madness.
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Deep breaths and take things a day at a time. People have been through far worse even today. I was joking with my GF last night who is South African. This ain’t nothing compared to what she has been through as a Zulu woman.
I know it’s not the best answer for you, but it is what it is. You either endure or you don’t. Me? I choose to endure.
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Ain’t no death squads showing up in Canada anytime soon and if they do in my neighborhood I would personally fuck them up.
Good… We’ll need them for the resistance
Are there actually 15K trans soldiers in the army, or is this just another number that he pulled out of his ass?
Transgender people are significantly more likely to serve in the US military than the general US population.[178][179] According to 2014 estimates from the Williams Institute on Sexual Orientation and Gender Identity Law and Public Policy, despite the ban on military service, about 21.4% of the total transgender population in the US is estimated to have served in the military. In May 2014, an estimated 15,500 transgender individuals served on active duty or in the Guard or Reserve forces.[22] Wikipedia
So it’s a real number he just thinks military=army like the fake loser he is.
Apparently I vastly underestimated how many people are in the US military in general.
Transgender people are significantly more likely to serve in the US military than the general US population
That also surprises me.
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My first inclination would not be to join an organization that has a long and notorious history of testosterone fuelled bro culture.
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What’s even crazier is that, in the modern US military, less than 1% of the population serves in the military.
There are also more NYPD cops than there are active duty Coast Guard personnel.
Don’t folks get gender affirming / plastic surgery for free or something? I think I heard it was covered because it lets military surgeons get practice for when they go work for private sector after their bit
The military and the VA offer gender affirming care, and what they offer varies.
For instance (I’m going off memory for active duty, I got out in 2017), if you’re active duty, I believe they’ll pay for everything so long as you lay out in your Transition Plan everything you want covered and your commanding officer approves it. You need “approval” to ensure that your absence during medical recovery won’t hinder mission readiness, so basically, if you’re about to be deployed in a month for 6 months, and you’re supposed to have gender affirming surgery tomorrow with a multi-month recovery, your surgery will likely be postponed.
The VA, which is for veterans, covers a majority of gender affirming care, but they aren’t legally allowed to cover everything. GRS/SRS is the big on, the military will cover that I believe, but the VA cannot and will not.
With Trump coming in, I have a feeling this is all going to go away, and they’re going to use a similar approach as the Federal Minimum Drinking Age Act to basically make LGBTQ+ healthcare illegal via withholding federal funding from those states who try to continue after a federal ban. “The states can choose their
drinking agegender affirming care, but those who don’t follow the federal guidelines will lose access to XYZ federal funding.”
My immediate thought is that Klinger will be happy.
Trump’s legacy will be long term damage to national security, rampant racism and discrimination, and widespread corruption.
His legacy was that after the first go round.
This time it may be destroying democracy entirely.
I was once near to (but did not interact with) Jamie Farr maybe 10 years ago. It’s really hard to see him and not picture him in a dress.
Just going to completely wreck US cybersecurity defense.
Next they’ll go after the furries and take all the navy’s data centers offline
It has long been said that if all the furries and catgirls disappeared it would cause the internet to collapse overnight.
What’s a catgirl? Is there a signup for that?
No only a test and you just passed. Congrats
Cat ears and tail will be emailed to you. Congratulations recruit. Don’t ask how we know where you live :-P.
Coding socks are the new contraband.
I love/hate that I get all these references lol
It’s part of the plan. fucking traitor.
Pfft, that shits been contracted out for years (honestly understandable, hard to have consistent network defense with a constantly rotating (deploying) workforce of active duty military)
It’s like half and half. Some is contracted out, but there are definitely active duty service members doing cyber security work as well.
They don’t exactly deploy cyber security soldiers to do combat patrols. They’re doing the same job whether they’re in D.C. or Berlin.
Lots of IT still in the military also some of the “contract out” is done by reservist and is tied to their military contract. Those still in military are your tier 3 IT and admin.
They can form their own Blackwater and charge gazilion dollars to operate in the same places as they were before
You joke but that’s why they want to fuck up the military. PMCs lobby too and they’re willing to do everything in a war from flying the planes to being grunts on the line.
It’s always about turning public money into private profit.
The ideological score here must be worth more to Trump than the strength of America’s military, already hurting for new recruits, which says a lot and frankly scares the fuck out of me
Well, the problem is you’re thinking logically. It’s an ideological victory on both ends for him.
Conservatives view this as strengthening the military, not weakening it.
The actual strength of America’s Military doesn’t matter because they don’t have hostile nations on their borders. So when America’s Military loses some of their force projection ability it can be used to say we’re turning towards isolationist policy, which is also a win for him. (From the Putin angle and from the Conservative one)
And, again, if you point out that this move will weaken the American Military, well what are you? A terrorist who doesn’t believe they have the greatest, manliest fighting force ever seen?
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Weakening the USA’s defenses seems to be a consistent theme with Trump.
Putin’s puppet.
I think this signals the beginning of a very tough era for trans people more than it does anything about national security. But we shall see
Elon will supply robot troops for the clone war.
Might supply them for the other side.
Both sides. Like Ford.
Merchant of death
And still, we let him live.
A couple of people have tried to go back in time to kill him, but were unsuccessful.
They will always be unsuccessful in this timeline. Maybe they managed it in others.
Unsuccessful at killing him or going back in time?
Yes
I mean… They’ve only been allowed quite recently…
…no? According to SPARTA over 76% of trans people in the military have been there for at least fifteen years
Openly?
Edit: Also I don’t consider 15 years to be “that long” in this context…
No. We have been allowed defacto since 2013 and officially since 2016, but have been in the military the whole time.
It would be a good move for Biden to offer them honorable discharges now… it’ll be better than what they’ll get if they wait.
He won’t because he doesn’t care.
Indeed, I’m surprised he doesn’t do it first to show the “moderate republicans” that he’s on their side.
Then place them in internment camps. We know where this is going you damn Nazi.
I assume that’s the plan with RFK’s “wellness camps”. Define gender dysphoria as a qualifying mental illness, and send transgender folks there to replace migrant workers who have been deported.
He’s already completed the first step, by making them seem inhuman and criminal
Which is ironic, because he’s the one who boasted about perving on kids
That’s a lot of hard to replace talent. I don’t think anyone I’m the military will let him go through with this. How anyone can support this mong is beyond me.
He’s already working on purging military leadership so only Trump loyalists are left. If he orders a purge of trans people it will happen. Everyone saying “he can’t really do this” is still in living in hopeful dreams. Reality is that Trump will be in charge and surrounded by fanatical loyalists running all branches of government and the military. The dangers for his chosen scapegoats are real.
Not something anyone can stop if he chooses to go through with it. He is the commander of the armed forces. He can make sweeping policies like this that fuck up everything.
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