I thought it’d be a pain but installing programs through the terminal is actually so nice, I never would have expected it

  • obsidianfoxxy7870@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    1·
    1 day ago

    I had the exact same experience when I first tried Linux. But now when I am evily forced into using Windows and HATE it any other way. Also I despise the windows terminal now (PowerShell & CMD).

  • Charlxmagne@lemmy.world
    2·
    3 days ago

    Realistically the simplest way to think about it is a text based file manager that can run programs, you could literally ignore it and use it to just install and update, if GUI’s your thing.

  • mlg@lemmy.worldEnglish
    6·
    6 days ago

    Wait till you try fish or zsh loaded with all the fancy plugins lol

    • Trainguyrom@reddthat.comEnglish
      8·
      7 days ago

      As an administrator, powershell is an essential tool these days. There are tunables that Microsoft simply only exposes via powershell even in their cloud Microsoft 365 environments. Just last month I had to rely on Powershell to trim previous versions on SharePoint, and 2 weeks ago I had to use Powershell to adjust a parameter on Exchange.

      But also being able to pop a Powershell session and quickly apply a registry fix or run a diagnostic command or even just install a piece of software without disrupting a user’s work is absolutely brilliant (plus saves a call when I can just email back and say “I’ve pushed it remotely, reboot and it should be sorted now”)

  • ssillyssadass@lemmy.world
    4·
    6 days ago

    I’m on the other side of the coin, I really don’t know how I’m supposed to learn to use the terminal. I can do sudo apt get to get some programs and updates, as well as mv and cp, but that’s where it stops for me.

    • lightnsfw@reddthat.com
      4·
      6 days ago

      You need a purpose. For instance I needed to copy and edit config files for a bunch terminals my company has deployed last week. Instead of manually copying the template directory 80 times and editing the 2 lines that needed to be changed in the parameter file for each one I used powershell to extract the name and id for each terminal from the log files and create copy of the template directory for each one, then replace the terminal name and id in the parameter file of the new directory with the ones extracted from the logs. This would have taken me all day to do manually and it only took about 45 minutes to write up the script and run it. I did have some prior experience with doing this kind of thing but hadn’t tied them all together lile that before so i learned some stuff.

    • fibojoly@sh.itjust.works
      3·
      6 days ago

      Maybe you need to have some sort of objective before you get started, otherwise yeah, you don’t have much to do in the console :) In my case I only use linux for work, so I’m ssh-ing away and running commands to compile this, apply that, show me the logs for this, grep that, etc.

    • Liz@midwest.socialEnglish
      1·
      5 days ago

      I literally only use it when a how-to guide explains exactly what to do and why. Then I forget what I did and look up how to do it again six months later. I’m fine with this arrangement, though I will prefer to have to use it less.

  • BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world
    2·
    6 days ago

    I’d use the terminal more if it had better auto suggestions, and allowed me to treat the text like any normal text editor, instead of having to learn keyboard shortcuts just to basic text manipulation. So far Warp terminal is the best option I’ve found

  • vorb0te@lemmynsfw.com
    41·
    7 days ago

    Every now and then I have to analyze some data at work, and gladly I have full access to my work station, so I have WSL2 with Linux, and I wouldn’t know what to do without all that Linux CLI goodness. A mixture of Pipes, xsltproc, jq, Python to get the numbers out of millioons of log lines or xml or json files. If I was stuck on Windows the tasks would be tedious.

  • SSNs4evr@leminal.space
    1·
    6 days ago

    I’m getting ready to change one of my Ubuntu machines over to Mint, as the next iteration of Ubuntu requires more RAM. While I’ve done these changes many times, I’ve never quite understood the deal with setting up the partitions.

  • glitchdx@lemmy.worldEnglish
    43·
    7 days ago

    if I could copy pasta with ctrl-c and ctrl-v in terminal, then 90% of my hatred of the command line would evaporate instantly.

      • glitchdx@lemmy.worldEnglish
        82·
        7 days ago

        I don’t want to pasta with middle click. I want to scroll with middle click. I want to pasta with ctrl-v.

        • MonkeMischief@lemmy.today
          9·
          7 days ago

          I don’t want to pasta with middle click. I want to scroll with middle click. I want to pasta with ctrl-v.

          🍝🤌🤌🤌

          Lol jokes aside, like they said above just add a shift and you’re good. Ctrl+shift+c and Ctrl+shift+v a’cut’a a’nna pasta jus’sa fine! Muah!

          • glitchdx@lemmy.worldEnglish
            2·
            4 days ago

            Well, yes. But also that only addresses half my comment. I suppose it’s fair since my own comment only addressed half of the previous comment.

            • MonkeMischief@lemmy.today
              1·
              3 days ago

              Ah, I was so fixated on the “pasta” joke, you’re right, I missed the other thing! Yeah, I can understand you missing that auto scroll feature.

              From what I can tell, it doesn’t come as easily as it should natively across all applications, although it appears Firefox has this functionality built in. I found a forum post here from not too long ago. Does this help in your case? :)

              https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=263528

              Edit:

              And here, some folks are discussing a scripty way to do it system-wide. YMMV it sounds like, and I’m honestly surprised this isn’t just a tick-box feature by now.

              https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=441445

              • glitchdx@lemmy.worldEnglish
                2·
                2 days ago

                That second link looks promising, it’s more recent than last time I looked into it. Thank you.

                Also, I’ve been doing the pasta joke for so long that I forget it’s a bit. “paste” gets autocorrected in my brain to be “pasta”.

        • kattfisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          5·
          6 days ago

          Then change the keyboard shortcuts of your terminal so that it does that. If you can’t, then switch to a terminal that lets you change the keyboard shortcuts.

    • grrgyle@slrpnk.net
      3·
      6 days ago

      What Ctrl+Shift+(do a little spin)+Ins isn’t intuitive enough for you??

      Jokes aside, that’s understandable. I guess I’ve just become used to it, but there must be some way to override the default binding if you don’t like it… Personally I like the kitty terminal’s approach which uses mod+c/v for copy and paste in the terminal like you’d expect, while still leaving ctrl+c/v for sigint and verbatim respectively.

  • it_depends_man@lemmy.world
    1661·
    7 days ago

    Also, updates.

    “hey computer! Update!”

    “Sure thing, here is a list of 57 packages I will update, y/n?”

    “y”

    “ok… done!”

    👌

    • uniquethrowagay@feddit.org
      2·
      6 days ago

      It’s not a big deal via terminal but for me and probably the average user, a decent update UI is superior. I want my computer to remind me like once a week and then update with one or two clicks. Updating via terminal does not appeal to me.

      • jj4211@lemmy.world
        2·
        6 days ago

        And this happens too. I get a little tray icon saying ‘do updates’ and I tap that and all my applications whether fwupd (firmware), flatpak or rpm updates are there and I click ‘go’, including the most recent nvidia drivers. In my case, KDE ‘discover’ does this for me. I’m so lazy as to not want to bother running the three terminal commands (dnf, fwupdmgr, and flatpak).

        Meanwhile, under windows, I do that, but then it doesn’t do my firmware, so my hardware vendor has their own updater (which also suggests driver updates that Microsoft does not suggest), but if I use those then I still miss out on decent nvidia drivers, I need to go to nvidia to get those updates. And pretty much every application is then independently telling me time to update something or another in a never ending parade of ‘update me now’ icons in the tray.

        Meanwhile it can be greatly mitigated in Windows by opening up a terminal and doing a winget update. Except it keeps offering up this one Office update that hangs with a blank terminal in my screen, and it still misses half the stuff…

    • reactionality@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
      2·
      6 days ago

      Getting me silenced by the mob of mods is just what a dirty Linux user would do.

      Removed Comment: Windows has winget upgrade --all. Fucking cultists.

    • KneeTitts@lemmy.worldEnglish
      22·
      7 days ago

      Guess what I did last night? I spent 4 hours working on getting PSD, XCF and KRA thumbnailers working in Mint. It took custom scripts to be written and each one required different commands because KRA files are just a zip file so you have to extract that and grab one of 3 possible preview files that might exist inside that zip and make that the thumbnail, while in gimp files you cant just use convert command, even convert[0] will only turn the first layer into a thumbnail and thats completely useless. And to top off all that, I finally got thumbnails working in gnome/nautilus but Only the XCF thumbs will generate in cinnamon/nemo (I still have no clue why that is) but I cannot just switch to gnome because there is technically no gnome variant of Mint so gnome doesnt work 100%… etc etc etc

      Linux is still not there, this stuff should be simple and automatic. If a 20 year professional took 4 hours to get this far, the average user will give up immediately. Yes Mint is still my daily driver, but seriously thumbnails should not be this much work.

    • Pennomi@lemmy.worldEnglish
      132·
      7 days ago

      But how do Linux users handle the crippling loneliness of their operating system not pestering them with ads on every update? How else can you know if your computer loves you? Where is the warmth of the corporate embrace?

    • wise_pancake@lemmy.ca
      16·
      7 days ago

      “Hey computer, I don’t like when you ask for that confirmation, just do it”

      “Oh, -y, I got you”

    • Kecessa@sh.itjust.works
      6·
      7 days ago

      Two clicks with the update thingy on Mint, if I could never have to use the terminal I might be tempted to uninstall Windows completely.