• Zaktor@sopuli.xyz
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    7 months ago

    This is what conspiracy theories are supposed be. Absurd insanity. Not “vaccines are bad for you” or “a secret agent with Q clearance wants patriots to overthrow democracy”.

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      The best conspiracy ever conceived was the one that convinced people that conspiracies are absurdist caricatures of the very real threat of collusion.

      All these crazy conspiracies just weaken the perception of the mundane real ones.

      If I was gonna conspire, the first step would be to trivialize the idea in the first place.

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        Case in point: A reality TV show called Big Brother, named after the nebulous, terrifying, all-powerful overseer in George Orwell’s 1984, was created specifically to rob the name of its power.

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          It was originally a Dutch TV show by the hack who created Fear Factor and you are giving him way too much credit.

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            Its usually not the creators that do the obfuscation, its the people with money picking and choosing the “winners” of Hollywood. One of those factors is name

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            Pleasantly surprised he is mentioned in that way.

            I stood near him on “conventions” a few times with some years in between and he is such a nasty person both while making phone calls and in the way he treats others/his staff.

            Comes over as someone who can’t find any joy in the small things in his life and p*sses on everyone else because of it.

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              That doesn’t shock me, but I doubt de Mol has any sort of secret conspiracy with the world powers going on.

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            Alex was just yelling about headlines he doesn’t understand, groundwater runoff affecting water tables is serious news covered a lot. It’s not fun so doesn’t make it to memes.

            Alex supports Trump who cut a third of the EPA budget, Biden strengthened the EPA significantly. Things that actually matter get reported on but receive very few clicks, at some point we have to accept we’re responsible and make an effort to change.

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              Oh, please don’t mistake me as believing Alex Jones is some sort of bastion of truth. While I find it interesting there is truth behind the meme, it’s more upsetting that the manner in which people hear it is still coming from a place of misinformation and bigotry. (Bigotry as in having different genitals doesn’t make you homosexual, yet the claim is that it “turns frogs gay.” Which is why I tossed the sic tag on the quote.)

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        I was gonna conspire, the first step would be to trivialize the idea in the first place.

        Not me. That sounds like way too much work. Spending a century or so running skeptic magazines/podcast/book publishers/blogs/whatyou just so i cam sneak my little thing in.

        Be easier to just do it.

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        It’s vicious and anti-scientific, but it’s not in the same level of obviously untrue statement as good conspiracy theories. Things that were claimed to be safe turning out to not be safe is something that actually happens. They’re just lying that it’s true of vaccines.

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          It gets absurd enough when you go back to the original claim

          “My MMR vaccine is completely safe, but the other MMR vaccine gives your child an upset tummy, which causes autism”

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      My favorite conspiracy theory is that Kelly Johnson was read into alien tech at area 51/roswell and he was allowed to reverse engineer it. That’s why he got government funding directly to him, and how he developed the sr71 blackbird so fucking quick

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    Yep, absolutely. It couldn’t possibly be that he’s an octogenarian with a known speech impediment, had to be directed energy weapons.

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      known speech impediment

      He had a childhood speech impediment. Overcoming those requires a concentrated effort, which we become less able to handle as we age.

      Here’s Biden in 2008

      https://youtu.be/eOombKZSsj4?si=hYe3kh-wkM2iemtY&t=1424

      Here he is in 1987

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRxOldhJ7Sw

      In a way what’s happening now is a speech impediment, but it’s re-emerging as he loses ability in the same parts of the brain that handle critical thinking due to the normal effects of aging.

      I’m just tired of so many people writing this stuff off. Like, it took 2 minutes to find those videos and show he hasn’t always been like this. He just couldn’t win until the only other option was trump. Even tho he was a much better candidate back then.

      Quick edit:

      Ironically something like the Havana weapon would actually cause this shit, it’s incredibly unlikely someone used it on Biden for the debate…

      But it’s fucking 2024 y’all, who knows what’s real anymore I guess.

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      Also, allegedly had a cold and probably got flustered after the first time he tripped on his words. And inexplicably kept trying to recite various metrics from memory.

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        People really underestimate how bad a cold can be. When I’m sick, it’s so hard to function mentally that I can barely do my job.

        I believe he was sick, and I believe this was just a case of unfortunate timing. What matters in politics is perception, though, and the perception isn’t good.

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          I’ll float the possibility that he took a slug of Nyquil™ before the debate, but forgot to chase it with a Red Bull™.

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          He’s always had it. But it was probably easier to manage it when he was younger.

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        Some of us aren’t against GMOs for being genetically modified, we’re against patents on food.

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            If I could fucking ban pesticides and antibiotics for agricultural use I absolutely would.

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              You’d probably kill millions of people unless you gradually overhauled the farming industry

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                Well, yes, but also if I actually had the power to make that change I would do it gradually through a market system for exactly that reason. One can dream, though.

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                  One small change, Market systems are prone to market failures. They’re also rather inefficient, because there needs to be inefficiencies or else there’s no profit.

                  No, the best path to reducing pesticides and the over reliance on fertilizer is regulatory, with people on the ground checking compliance. Our food supply is too important to be left to the inefficiencies and corruption of “market solutions”

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          I’m also against patents on food but this is a bad argument. GMOs are artificial and can reasonably be patented under the same rules as any other technology.

          Patents in general must be abolished.

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          Also they had sex symbol Jane Fonda.

          What is with the anti-reason luddites and being so good at getting porn stars on their side? Jenny McCarthy is another as well as PETAs small cohort of nude exhibitionist girls.

          Maybe the next pandemic WHO should hire a few to do a “vaccines are sexy” promotion. Is that it? The only way to convince people to not die a preventable death is have someone with big tits give them the answer?