According to a Valve Engineer, the Steam Machine specs outclass the most common PC configurations. The company relied on its own hardware surveys to choose the system’s components. Even as an entry-level option, Valve claims that 4K/60 fps performance is realistic, despite a memory-limited GPU.
  • ShinkanTrain@lemmy.mlEnglish
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    1 month ago

    I believe it. Lots of laptops and 1650s out there.

    I don’t believe it does 4k/60 on current gen games.

  • aaronhooper@retrolemmy.comEnglish
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    1 month ago

    I would be very surprised if “all games” includes titles like rainbow 6 siege and others with strict/unsupported anticheat

    • jeff 👨‍💻@programming.devEnglish
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      1 month ago

      You can install Windows on it and should be able to play those games.

      They are obviously saying that their hardware is powerful enough to play all games; not that all games support their choice of OS.

  • Diplomjodler@feddit.orgEnglish
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    1 month ago

    People often aren’t aware that the average PC gadget doesn’t have a 5090. The majority of people are using pretty outdated hardware. And Steam are certainly in a position to know that because of the Steam survey.

    • brucethemoose@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      1 month ago

      Nvidia is not helping, either. What they’re charging now is bonkers.

      …Intel is trying at least. Battlemage is good, it’s just inexplicably not selling well. I’d have jumped on it a heartbeat if they made a bigger card.

      • Cort@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        1 month ago

        I think Intel’s issue is that they’re focusing on the low end. Anyone with a 3060 or better would see the b580 as a lateral move at best, or more likely a downgrade. A b770 card would probably have gotten me to upgrade as long as they weren’t stingy with the ram.

        • brucethemoose@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          1 month ago

          …Yeah.

          Ironically, they seemed to figure ‘low end’ is where the sales are at. Yet my guess is most ‘low end’ buyers pick Nvidia by default, and folks who are upgrading from anything aim higher than a B580.

          I would’ve killed for a 512-bit Arc card (other than the unobtanium datacenter GPUs), but that’s a fever dream for now…

    • coyootje@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      1 month ago

      I’m one of them, my Cpu and motherboard are both almost 10 years old. I updated most other parts but don’t want to mess around with those core parts in fear of damaging something.

      At the moment I’m either considering finally making the jump to a new case, motherboard and Cpu with the parts I replaced over the years or I will buy a steam machine.

      • vrek@programming.devEnglish
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        1 month ago

        Cpu could be dangerous if you are not careful but video card is easy. Open case, 1-3 screws depending on old and new card, pull out, push in new card.

        That said I am running a 970 so…

      • dejected_warp_core@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        1 month ago

        Same. I’m beating a 1080 within an inch of its life at this point. Some times, the system needs a hard reboot and BIOS just “forgets” that bootable devices are installed. It’s time, and that Steam Machine is looking really nice.

    • Jo Miran@lemmy.mlEnglish
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      1 month ago

      I have two “gaming” PCs. One with a 1070ti and the other with a 1080ti. For fancy graphics games, I rely on GeForce Now.

      • CookieOfFortune@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        1 month ago

        I’ve got a 1080ti and it still run games just fine. I only play at 1080p resolution but my old eyes can’t tell the difference anyways.

        • Jo Miran@lemmy.mlEnglish
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          1 month ago

          That’s the thing, 1080p monitors are very common…maybe the most common. If that’s your resolution, a 1080ti will take care of you just fine. If I can keep my 1080ti’s fans from dying, I will probably use that card for another 5 years.

  • misk@piefed.socialEnglish
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    1 month ago

    Can play all games*

    * if you install Windows but that concerns only the most popular games

    • NoWay@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      1 month ago

      Only reason I can’t play certain games is the developers want kernal level anti cheat. Luckily even Microsoft is working on getting rid of that.

  • BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    1 month ago

    But can’t run them at 8k with every option turned up to Ultra therefore the Steam Machine is garbage and the game engines are unoptimized and the developers are lazy. /s

  • network_switch@lemmy.mlEnglish
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    1 month ago

    What may end up being the best selling console of all time is the first Switch which was maybe about a quarter docker as powerful as a PS4. This will be fine. It’s about as powerful as a PS5. It’s a strong minipc. Person plays FFVII Rebirth and then try to pickup the game dev hobby with Godot. It’s on Steam and Flathub. Play Cyberpunk and then open up Ardour for their music aspirations

    • jacksilver@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      1 month ago

      I mean a big difference there is that the switch can only play games that run on it. There are going to be games that don’t run on the steam machine (or at least we’ll), just as there aren’t games that run on the steamdeck.

      I think it will still do well, but that’s a big difference between the switches approach to low power vs the steam machine.

    • oranges_in_my_a55@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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      1 month ago

      Man, I see kids everywhere with those stick hoops lately. It’s got to be bad for their brains, right? I read an article in the paper… It’s like they lose the power to innovate because they’re staring at the stick hoop all day.

  • filister@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    1 month ago

    To be honest, I am a bit disappointed in the machine, its specs are very underwhelming and not exactly future proof.

    I really like the idea of Steam machines and I hope they are successful though.

    • faintwhenfree@lemmus.orgEnglish
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      1 month ago

      They have to find a price/performance ratio that most users would be satisfied with, it’s a difficult task and some one will always be left out. It’s not future proof for sure, but I am sure it will be a banger value in present(whenever it launches).

    • Drigo@sopuli.xyzEnglish
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      1 month ago

      It’s not made for the high end user, and as the article said, it’s better than 70%. Most people play on old hardware. It’s a perfect fit for those people

    • Harvey656@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      1 month ago

      According to a Valve Engineer, the Steam Machine specs outclass the most common PC configurations.

      That’s the first sentence. As far as “clickbat” goes, this is barely one if at all.

      • carrylex@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        1 month ago

        Games with Kernel Level Anti Cheat won’t run on Linux.

        It’s also quite funny what is defined as a PC? Steamdecks and Laptops are not really PCs yet they use data from these devices.

        Just post the original video instead of posting such a trash article with 0 research.

        • Harvey656@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          1 month ago

          Steamdecks and Laptops are not really PCs

          Wut. Did you huff the stupid juice before commenting? PC stands for personal computer. Steamdeck has a full Linux environment by default and laptop can be anything (most of the time.)

          You can run servers, command line/console, play games, edit videos, make music, control smart home devices and way more. I what way, are these not PC’s?

    • brucethemoose@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      1 month ago

      Notebookcheck is an excellent source.

      Look at how meticulous their laptop reviews are: they’re so German it hurts. And they’re one of the only ‘oldschool’ written hardware reviewers that’s still alive.

    • Baggie@lemmy.zipEnglish
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      1 month ago

      Possibly not, crysis is single thread bound due to it being a 32 bit application. You can technically run it as x64 but that’s cheating.

      • usrtrv@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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        1 month ago

        What? 32bit has nothing to do with how many threads it can use. Just how much memory it can address.