Oh there’s plenty of propaganda here, pretty extreme as well…
There can’t be propaganda if everyone agrees with me! I think we’re in good shape!
Extreme? Like Tony the Tiger who is the mascot of Kellogg’s Frosted Flakes cereal. They’re grrreat!
It usually gets buried in downvotes tho, maniacs are everywhere…
Never doubt your ability to be influenced by propaganda. The technique that broke the internet in 2015, lying and then confirming the lie more convincingly with a second account, is still very successful today.
confirms convincingly
That broke the internet long before the 2000s.
yeah, doesnt he remember the 1370s?
Oh, well, it might seem like it for you, on lemmy.world. My instance didn’t defederate a single other instance, and I can tell you there’s plenty.
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Facts
Agree
Uh no. Lemmy is very much a groupthink entity. If you don’t agree with the hive, you’re berated and downvoted into oblivion.
Is this post a paradox?
Lemmy is great at proving me right.
“Everyone that disagrees with me is groupthink”
Edit: how dare you downvote me, groupthinker
It’s not as clever yet, thought, as the demographic is rather small. I was amazed that reddits’ world news the comments were almost uniformly not only anti Hamas but pro Israel. I mean not to pick a side here, and not saying theres not astroturfing here. However there’s more diversity of position, whereas the reddit thread felt almost strangly like everyone was just saying stuff, but not carrying any meaning. Felt like the last scene of body snatchers where even the protagonist turns out to be snatched, in a way.
The amount of sophistication is lower. There are people holding extreme positions but quite often they self identify and aren’t state sponsored most of the time.
I see propaganda all over the place on here.
Here, take a fake Internet point.
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that’s amateupaganda
I’ve been around since 1959, and back then people were up in arms about the partisan divide in this country and the Vietnam conflict and the oppression of black and other races. Back then, domestic abuse was sort of commonplace, no man could be sent to jail for beating up his kids or his wife. Alcoholism was rampant back then, and drug abuse shot up dramatically. Since then, I’ve seen so much of the same play out over and over. Things have changed somewhat for the better in some ways, but to be honest - there never was a ‘good old time’ when everyone felt happy and equal and safe and protected.
In my experience people who talk about the good old days are white and male.
It was a time when they got their way 100% and everyone else could get fucked.
More likely it was when they were kids and without adult responsibilities, or narrow/whitewashed views of the past(as from stories and shows from before their birth)
I look back at my childhood as the ‘good ole days’ mostly because of the no responsibilities thing. The more I learn about what stuff was really going on in the 90’s/2000s, the more I see there was no good ole days, just times when I was insulated from the harsh realities of the world.
I hold similar views(obviously), but I find something comforting in it. Like, rather than living in a ruined paradise lost by us or our parents, we live in a complicated world where we share the work of trying to make something better with our ancestors.
(Of course, we also have to figure out how to do that, and, in a complicated world, that can be challenging and lead to conflict)
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I’ve been around since the 70s and I mostly agree … but on one point I disagree … the ability of humanity to wipe itself out with a nuclear exchange. Back then, even 20, 30 years ago there were a lot level headed leaders who (although we may have disagreed with them) were less radical and would be less likely to consider launching a nuclear weapon for any reason. Back then, we also had a lot of actual war veterans in the public and in government who understood the nature of war … now there are fewer of them around. Most people including those in government now don’t know what war is any more, other than to see it glorified in history books, movies and pop culture.
So the combination scares me … a society that is complacent to war yet has the weapons to cause world wide destruction if someone disagrees with them.
It didn’t feel like they were stable and would take care of us though, the nuclear drills sure didn’t help. Also, I know a lot of army vets that weren’t drafted but went to school with the army bill. There are people out there that still know that war sucks. Also, the kids now have school shooting drills, they kind of live with the potential of war and some have seen it. There does seem to be an incredible breakdown with the money in politics, no shame and we’re extremely close to having a dictator after they attempted a coup, I’ll give you that.
Now-a-days we just have late stage capitalism, nazi resurgence, one election from a US dictatorship, and the world is on fire/literally ending.
2023 is an absolute shitshow.
If you think there’s no propaganda on lemmy then I have news for you.
And fake internet points.
And I’m sure top men are working on monetization.
I’ve already seen plenty of posts and comments that look suspiciously product-placementy.
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I’ll have you know that the fake internet points are still here and I will continue to use them to determine my worth in the eyes of my peers.
270 karma in 4 months. Cute.
Oddly enough that’s an average of 10 points per comment.
Also I can’t see total up votes in Sync, or I haven’t figured out where that is, so I don’t know if the total karma is correct, but I can see they’ve only made 27 comments in 4 months.
Boost for Lemmy (evolved from Boost for reddit) just continues to call it karma:
Do me next
34.099 karma in 4 months. Cute.
Is that bad
It’s OK, I guess. My condolences for being stuck in Montana, though.
I moved here willingly. My condolences for your behavior edit: downvote away, I like it here
For what it’s worth, you got my upvote. And I’m happy you’re happy in Montana. But, it’s not Vermont. Just saying.
Only if you look for them. Not really in your face.
It’s pretty cool, even though it not even 1% of the size of the big social media monopolists
Perhaps because it’s not
Usenet and IRC were the good ole times.
00s internet before corporations colonized it was beautiful. I’m deeply sad that it’s gone but thankful that I got to participate.
Downloading QWKs from local dial-up BBSs was the good ole times.
I like the absence of cumulative fake internet points. I do think it lends a healthier perspective to the community
Upvoted AND boosted.
take my Extra-Fake Internet Point my friend
Pls god no
I liked the fake internet points, but it definitely leads to karma whoring. So I’ll do without.
You could create a plug in that states your and everybody’s total karma. Karma is one of the worst ideas on the internet. A tool to enforce conformity and obedience
Who’s Line is it Anyway had the right idea, the rules are made up and the points don’t matter.
Now do it from Linux and you have an ultimate no-BS experience
There is plenty of propaganda on lemmy. You just have to realize you will always be fed propaganda and understand there is propaganda on each side of every issue…
There is incomparably more propaganda here then anywhere else. On reddit politics are kept out of most subs that are not specifically discussing politics, here everyone uses every opportunity to push whatever agenda they happen to have
The thing about this is fuck all Americans to death amirite?
The sheer amount of pro palestinian / pro hamas content around here…
This place is heaving with nutters.
This
placeworld is heaving with nutters.Its very concentrated here and it is so often lefty nutters. Or certainly my exposure to it is acute on Lemmy compared to my day to day living.
Sectarian leftist nutters who seem to be extremely overconfident in their amateurish view of philosophy and politics. “The entire world and all of contemporary history is a conspiracy to discredit Lenin” is honestly a pretty shocking view of the world.
For those who can’t be bothered to spend 30 seconds checking if a lemmygrad user is full of shit, this was my response to racism against Koreans (literally calling them dogs), since I know I’d be banned (again) if I was too mean and called a privileged hexbear poster racist directly.
Lemmy is just as much an information warfare platform as anything on Reddit. The Israel/Hamas coverage has confirmed that pretty conclusively.
oh you
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