• Pacattack57@lemmy.world
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    1 hour ago

    They remove the extra ports because they take up space in the board.

    That aside if you’re buying Mac you took it from yourself. No one made you buy it.

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    I’m no Apple fanboy (never owned a product of theirs and never will) but to be fair, those two USB-C ports can do everything the old, removed ports can do and more. The real crime here is not putting enough of them on the laptop.

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    To make our laptops look clean and minimalistic, they made us buy a bunch of dongles and adapters.

    Screw it, I’m buying a rugged laptop with the thickness of a desktop PC next

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    2 hours ago

    This pic leaves out the latest generation of MacBook that brings back some of those ports.

    I guess OP would rather generate outrage upvotes, rather than spread the truth.

  • JimVanDeventer@lemmy.world
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    USB-C does a lot of heavy lifting. Also, MagSafe™ is still there. A little surprised there is also a SD card slot. And a HDMI port. Not complaining about their inclusion, and I do use them regularly, but why did the dongle company give these to us?

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    I dont know why this is controversial. I’m way more happy with 4x USB-C, than 5 unique ports, that will likely never be used on a regular basis, even when they were relevant

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    I’m on the other side wishing peripherals would catch up and all become USB-C already. I’m tired of USB-A.

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    Dude, those two little UBS-C ports do 50x what the ports on the bottom laptop could do

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    I’m glad I can plug in one port and have a dual display setup, all peripherals, speakers, ethernet, charging, etc connected at my desk in one go.

    If I want to leave, unplug one thing and I’m good to go.

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    Fuck firewire. Glad it’s dead. USB C is the best thing to happen to peripherals since the mouse.

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      USB C is the best thing to happen to peripherals since the mouse.

      I would agree with you if there were a simple way to tell what the USB-C cable I have in my hand can be used for without knowing beforehand. Otherwise, for example, I don’t know whether the USB-C cable will charge my device or not. There should have been a simple way to label them for usage that was baked into the standard. As it is, the concept is terrific, but the execution can be extremely frustrating.

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        Buying a basic, no-frills USB-C cable from a reputable tech manufacturer all but guarantees that it’ll work for essentially any purpose. Of course the shoddy pack-in cables included with a cheap device purchase won’t work well.

        I replaced every USB-C-to-C or -A-to-C cable and brick in my house and carry bag with a very low cost Anker cable (except the ones that came with my Google products, those are fine), and now anything charges on any cable.

        You wouldn’t say that a razor sucked just because the cheap replacement blades you bought at the dollar store nicked your face, or that a pan was too confusing because the dog food you cooked in it didn’t taste good. So too it is not the fault of USB-C that poorly manufactured charging bricks and cables exist. The standard still works; in fact, it works so well that unethical companies are flooding the market with crap.

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        Hey that’s a fair point. Funny how often good ideas are kneecapped by crap executions.

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          I’m pretty sure the phrase “kneecapped by crap executions” is in the USB working groups’s charter. It’s like one of their core guiding principles.

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            If anyone disagrees with this, the original USB spec was for a reversible connector and the only reason we didn’t get to have that the whole time was because they wanted to increase profit margins.

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              USB has always been reversible. In fact you have to reverse it at least 3 times before it’ll FUCKING PLUG IN.

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              That’s the reason Apple released the Lightning connector. They pushed for several features for USB around 2010, including a reversible connector, but the USB-IF refused. Apple wanted USB-C, but couldn’t wait for the USB-IF to come to an agreement so they could replace the dated 20-pin connector.

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        Burn all the USBC cables with fire except PD. The top PD cable does everything the lower cable does.

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            Correct. The other commenter is giving bad advice.

            Both power delivery and bandwidth are backwards compatible, but they are independent specifications on USB-C cables. You can even get PD capable USB-C cables that don’t transmit data at all.

            Also, that’s not true for Thunderbolt cables. Each of the 5 versions have specific data and power delivery minimum and maximum specifications.

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          IDK I’ve had PD cables that looked good for a while but turns out their data rate was basically USB2. It seems no matter what rule of thumb I try there are always weird caveats.

          No, I’m not bitter, why would you ask that?

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            You forgot thunderbolt and usb4 exists now

            You can buy a single cable that does 40GB and USB4 and charges at 240w.

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        Do not all USB C cables have the capability to do Power Delivery? I thought it was up to the port you plugged it in to support it?

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        Yeah, I totally get that there is a need for cheap power only cables, but why are there what feels like 30 different data “standards”. Just gimme power-only, data, and fast-data. And yeah, in 2 years there’ll be a faster data protocol, so what, that’s then fast-data24, fast-data26, etc. and manufacturers have to use a specific pictogram to label them according to the highest standard they fulfill.

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      I agree with USB-C, but there are still a million USB-A devices I need to use, and I can’t be bothered to buy adapters for all of them. And a USB hub is annoying.

      Plus, having 1-2 USB-C ports only is never gonna be enough. If they are serious about it, why not have 5?

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        I bought some adaptors in China for around $0.50 each. It really isn’t that big of a deal

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        You can’t buy a UCB-C Wifi dongle that last time I checked. You have to buy a c-to-a adapter, then use a usb-a wifi dongle. It’s nuts that those don’t exist.

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          Genuine question - what device do you have that has USB-C ports, no USB-A ports, doesn’t have WiFi, but supports the dongle?

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            Pinetab2 shipped with a wifi chip without any Linux drivers. The drivers eventually got made, but before that, you needed a USB dongle with Ethernet or a adapter.

            I would also like a USB-c wifi dongle for tech support reasons. Sometimes, the wifi hardware fails and you need a quick replacement to figure out what happened.

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            Some applications need very specific drivers and protocols that aren’t compatible with normal chips. Or you have to connect to a device via WiFi but still need internet. Also long range WiFi antennas are amazing.

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            Maybe the preferred Linux distro doesn’t work with them. I had to use another distro for a while because Debian didn’t immediately support the card, but there are apparently cases where the internal card just permanently wouldn’t work (like in fully free software distros). I would rather replace the card inside the laptop than use a dongle, but idk islf this xan always be the answer.

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      I hated when mice became the primary interface to computers, and I still do.

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      Nah, USB-A was the best since it replaced serial ports (esp PS/2, which was much harder to plug in) and outlived/outclassed FireWire. USB-C is the best thing since HDM (screw you VGA amd DVI), which was the best since USB-A.

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    I’m okay with USB-C and a headphone jack on my laptop. The other shit is for the birds.