Not just ANY bail bond joint, “A 2nd Chance Bail Bonds” in Atlanta.

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    People often say they’re just waiting for him to flip on Trump. Giuliani is broke, Trump disdains him, etc…

    The prosecutors aren’t interested in what he has to say. There are better witnesses, more reliable witnesses who have corroborated all the facts already.

    The prosecutors do not need this shell of a man to flip.

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        If he flips it’ll be hilarious watching him mouth vomit all the shit trump has told him.

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      This. Trump is the main culprit and threat, so he’s priority.

      But taking down a corrupt former mayor? That’s a feather in anyone’s cap too.

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        Plus, Rudy isn’t exactly a credible witness. He’s told so many lies, so many different versions of events, and he has proven he’s willing to say anything to save his own skin. The defense would tear him apart on the stand.

        The only way he gets a deal is if he can provide hard evidence the prosecution doesn’t already have.

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          Totally agree.

          BUT … if he has hard evidence like documents, recordings, emails, txts, those might be worth something and will be harder for the defense to tear apart.

          Yet still, I want to see Rudy behind bars so there’s that too.

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          100% this. He’d be a laughable witness against drumpf and all drumpf’s lawyers need to do is to cast reasonable bout in his testimony, There are a few obvious ones, like substance abuse, habitual lying, leaked tapes, financial embarrasment, etc. There’s also always a chance he’d make the whole process a clown show by sprouting off random ramblings and conspiracy theories on the stand. Drumpf’s attorneys could also easily push all the blame to Rudy by invoking the advice of counsel defence.

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      At this rate they don’t need anyone to “flip”. At the end of the day these morons got busted doing illegal shit and there is more than enough evidence that they don’t need someone else’s testimony. Flip or not then are fucked.

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        Lmao no, no one of his bootlickers believe in him. Not even Gaetz. When push comes to shove is everyone for themselves. Although, the Four Season Landscaping fiasco (still get a good laugh at that one) make me question his sanity.

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    He deserves all the ridicule in the world for this, as well as anyone else involved in this scheme to overthrow a duly elected government. I will gleefully watch this trial and not feel bad about enjoying it whatsoever.

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    If he really has to use bonds man, things are not looking to good for him. At this point he has to consider whether cooperating is the better option or not, right?

    It seems to me that this will escalate rather quickly between them.

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      Yeah, he’s out of money. Trying to sell a house for 6.5 mil. Begging Trump for cash which isn’t coming.

      Only a matter of time…

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          As soon as he realizes the RICO charge carries a 5 year MINIMUM sentence and he’s 79 years old… If he goes up, he’s never seeing the outside again.

          That’s just one charge against him, he’s got 12 more after that…

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            He knows. He practically invented it.

            So he’s probably really eating shit now he’s getting charged under it.

            Now where’s my popcorn?

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            Rudy is done for if he doesn’t flip and flip hard. Trump will be a much more difficult fight but if Rudy showed up with receipts it would totally change the equation.

            Zero chance Rudy doesn’t spend time behind bars if he doesn’t make a deal.

            If I were trump I’d be ensuring I keep guys like him real close. He knows the whole story and could blow the case wide open.

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          What sucks about this whole system is that it relies on financial leverage. Imagine if you couldn’t hide from prosecution with enough cash. Or, imagine for a moment he’s innocent. He’s not, to be clear, and literally nobody believes he is, but imagine somehow he was the one guy in the corner of the room saying “Ya know, this is a crime and I will not be a part of it.” Innocent people are frequently ground into pulp by the justice system. Not Rudy, so I don’t have any sympathy for him specifically. It just feels icky to cheer as the orphan crushing machine is used off-label to crush people who deserve it for a change.

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            In that case he could have quit, or reported the ongoing crime to the FBI.

            Like, he’s not a manipulated teenager with nowhere to go, and if he “wanted nothing to do with it” he should have separated himself from it

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      At this point he has to consider whether cooperating is the better option or not, right?

      That would be the smart option, not the Republican one.

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      Prosecution doesn’t need him. Rudy has lied and contradicted himself so often you simply couldn’t put him on the stand. His testimony would be impeached within minutes. So his only value would be if he could provide background information that wasn’t available through other means. Well they have all of his electronic devices (18 from his apartment alone!), all of his texts and emails, what else can he offer?

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    Uh-oh. He isn’t rich anymore. According to Trump, that means he’s automatically a loser. Guess he won’t be getting any support from the orange guy anymore, not that he was getting much.

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    I mean it is a big deal, oddly though I don’t feel all that satisfied I’m just trusting that the professionals are handling it and I trust that the right outcome will eventually prevail

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      Someone has already explained the mechanics of bail to you but from a cultural perspective it’s important to note that someone going to one of these storefront bail bondsmen is interpreted as a sign that you are

      1. in an awful lot of trouble

      2. probably a person to avoid because your problems will have a tendency to become my problems

      3. broke enough that you’re willing to pay punitive interest in order to stay out of jail

      Normally I’d be all on my soapbox about how the bail system essentially means that poor people get punished more for the same crimes and shit like that but this guy really is an absolute monster. Back in the 90s everyone loved him for “cleaning up New York City” using the twin powers of aggressively racist policing and violence against homeless people. After 9/11 they all but made him a saint, started calling him “America’s Mayor” and shit like that, but those of us who had been paying attention knew that he was a shit leader and a shit person who was benefiting from the fact that we needed someone to rally behind after the tragedy that was the 9/11 attacks. Watching him be exposed for the grifter and criminal that he always was has been cathartic for a lot of people.

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      If you have a lot of money/property you put that up for 100% of the bail amount, which you get back if you show up to court.

      If you don’t have enough money/property, you go to a bondsman, pay the 10% and they put up the other 90%. You never get your 10% back even if you show in court.

      So if you’re gonna run, you just pay the 10%, which over the decades resulted in bail amounts 10x higher than they should be.

      It’s basically a “poor tax” that Rudy apparently has to pay.

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        So the bail bondsman isn’t going to come after you to get back the 90% he lost when you didn’t show up for court?