AI-generated videos promoting Poland’s exit from the European Union have appeared on Polish-language social media, featuring non-existent, attractive young women advocating for “Polexit”.

One TikTok account called “Prawilne Polki” published content showing women dressed in T-shirts bearing Polish flags and patriotic symbols, European analytics collective Res Futura said. The content targeted audiences aged 15 to 25.

The videos featured statements including: “I want Polexit because I want freedom of choice, even if it will be more expensive. I don’t remember Poland before the European Union, but I feel it was more Polish then.”

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    We need counter-operation where hot girls start promoting polexit then gradually motivate it with necessity of submission to Russia and start “Poles are confused Russians” narrative. I don’t know what would trigger Poles more than that.

    P.S. 7/10, 4/10, 4/10

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    Due to tight controls over the media in authoritarian regimes like China or Russia, they aren’t as vulnerable to this vector of foreign propaganda. But they sure as hell make a tonne of this kind of thing and ship it overseas. How can this asymmetry be addressed or mitigated?

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    Attractive is subject to perspective, for example I don’t find any of them even a tinsy bit attractive.

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    I think the appropriate response to this is to make AI videos of beatiful russian women telling russians to revolt against Putin

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      If I lived in Russia, I probably wouldn’t want to fight a civil war. I’d just leave.

      I think that the problem that the Kremlin is going to face isn’t a civil war, but a combination of population leaving and having a hard time attracting immigration. Like, sure, the people in power get control of mines and oil wells and such, but they’re going to erode the country with policies like this.

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      Besides of the “This is the weapon of the enemy” frame from The Dark Knight Returns, let me remind you who runs and trains these AI models. They want the EU gone. At best, you’ll be shoveling money into it, at worst, your IP will be terminated for “spam”.

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          Poland’s exit isn’t the breaking of the EU. It’s proving a plan of attack that will break it.

          Slowly chipping away at the edges. Attacking country by country with misinformation until every country is isolated again, ruled by whatever oligarch decides to set up shop there.

          The point of a union is the united effort. If you start thinking in terms of what parts you can cut out without issue or to “grow stronger” then you might as well stop the charade and pick who’s running the new empire.

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      The easiest solution is to have the USA annex Russia. That stops the tomfoolery that Russia exerts in every area, including the US.

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        I don’t want Russia.

        Geographically, the US has the benefit of distance from other major powers, and that would in part go away. Russia already blows a bunch of money trying to secure the Far East by getting Russians to live out there.

        Russia has a shit-load of problems that have to be solved, from political to AIDS epidemic.

        We can already get population while filtering out people who don’t to be here by just allowing inmigration. Annex something and you have to fight the people who don’t want to be there. Immigration is a much better way to get people.

        Russia has natural resources, but we have most of the same ones already in North America, and they aren’t that valuable; resource extraction isn’t most of our economy.

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        Sad. It’s pathetic that our society is captured by oligarchs that appreciate the brainwashing and have no desire to counter it.

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    The EU needs to finally take this threat seriously and respond with even more attractive Ai women.

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    Fucking Russia is doing this shit again. We need to take them out, permanently, at any cost.

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    People need to stop watching slop. But I feel like the kind of idiots easily swayed by slop are also the kinds that won’t stop watching it.

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    Bigger question is… is it effective? That’s the worrysome part. It worked (not videos, but literally fake news) for the UK. The hybrid war on Europe has reached new heights. Any Poles that want to chip in?

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      Also what do we do as counter measure? Generate videos to promote EU and then throw that out there? How do we deal with that?

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        Work on reducing the frustrations of the target demographic of this propaganda. For example, the housing crisis. Or the rich getting richer while stealing the future of the young.

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          The problem is a lot of these things take many many years to make better.

          A lot of actions were taking here years ago and were starting to see rents come down, but it isn’t a fast thing.

          Then with people having the memory of a goldfish, the people trying to at least partially fix things don’t get the outcome fast enough because it’s slow, and the right wing fascists come in and say see, it didn’t work, and tear it all down. Then due to the delay in everything the previous governments actions start to show some benefit and the fascists say, see we did it, until things turn to shit and the people wanting to fix things take over again.

          And the cycle never fucking ends.

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        Spend billions of dollars on public education, with a focus on critical analysis, starting 50 years ago.

        Failing that, I don’t know, get rid of the ultra wealthy?

        I don’t know how I feel about ai slop that promotes good ideas. That sounds like a deal with the devil. But if there is going to be slop, I’d rather it be promoting stuff like “workers together are stronger”

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          I agree in a better world education should prevent most people from disinformation but with ai in the mix analysing info to detect fakes gets harder and harder. Trying to combat disinformation by explaining things takes too long. By the time we explained one thing 100 new fake news get published. Since I don’t have a solution my only thought was copying ai slop but with facts and fire it back into the internet. Make it scream from every side. Eventually social media is just ai slop.

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        You don’t fight fire with fire. Disinformation can only be fought with exposure and transparency. Is it “the dream” to be in the EU? No. But it damn well has its benefits. And neither Russia, nor USA have any interest for a strong, independent Europe.

        A campaign that fights the bulshit being spread around, with actual facts and sources - that, unfortunately, is boring. So, maybe, real OF models need to volunteer to deliver facts while wearing skimpy clothing? I don’t know. “Paid for” messages can and will come across as insincere.

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          What about fighting back with porn of these same AI propagandists saying I’m fake, but I’m a patriotic Pole and I’ll fuck you!

          Porn, and gets across they aren’t real.

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    And much like the UK version it will be led by a grotty old white man with bad teeth and a pocket full of roubles.

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    Apparently this was a real strategy on twitter for the 2024 election: videos of hot women followed by trump messages aimed at young men…and it seems to have worked to at least get them off the couch…just be aware of it ffs (fucking monkey brains)

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          That too was a Russian psyop. If we don’t fight this shit, Poland will fall for it, they are ripe for this type of demagoguery.

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            I just expected poles to be more resistent to self-harm narratives from russia…even if they are not explicitly about russia. So much for “russophobia”.

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      They used to have a specific strategy for accomplishing this:
      The USA provided military security for Europe so that Europe would not have any need to spend money for military. The USA’s goal was to minimize EU countries’ military spending so that USA would remain an uncontested military hegemon. That gives it a lot of influence that can be translated into actual cash.

      At the same time, EU countries saved several percents of their GDP and could use it for the good of their own populations. It was a win-win situation.

      But then the Russia organized this movement called “MAGA”, and that movement successfully cancelled the arrangement. (Funnily enough, the abbreviation “maga” comes from “make America great again”, which would suggest strategies for increasing USA’s influence, not diminishing it. But what do I know.)

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        That is because the MAGA/P2025/neofascist plan is not to maintain hegemony against near-peers (which is expensive on the citizen), it is to return to the mythologized post-war boom by letting the rest of the world go to shit again and then to swoop in to “save” everyone (again) while selling them weapons and industrial stuff (but not to let them reindustrialize again, like during the cold war).

        What is preverse is that it was the reindustrialization and social state of Japan, Germany/EU that was the poster child that helped keep these blocks from turning fully socialist and win hearts and minds abroad during the cold war. I guess that was too successful and is making russia/US look bad.

        PS: btw, this “strategy” is risky, because there is no way to guarantee that WW3 won’t reach US soil this time, you can’t just sit it out.

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        At the same time, EU countries saved several percents of their GDP and could use it for the good of their own populations.

        They saved it in US government bonds which gave the US the money to finance the weapons.

        But then the Russia organized this movement called “MAGA”, and that movement successfully cancelled the arrangement.

        Which could make one wonder if the US politicians are that stupid. There would be one reasonable reason to end the arrangement: if there is another war to be fought.

        China is the bigger threat to US hegemony and the way things are, we will fight with the US against China and Russia. All the drama exists to prevent the population from objecting to a war that inevitably will become nuclear.

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            Rump is incredibly stupid. A very very very very stupid man, who believes most of his own bullshit. But he understands how stupid racist Americans think and it’s very plausible to those ears.

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        Are you sure it’s not “Muzzle America for Global Autocrats”?

    • DefederateLemmyMl@feddit.nl
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      There is a much more obvious country that has a vested interest in dividing western democracies, and weakening organizations that unite them, such as NATO and the EU, a country that’s currently in a proxy and hybrid war with Europe, and a country that has long understood the importance of information warfare: Russia.

      Of course with the Trump administration, you never know, but then you could also ask yourself: if Trump was a Russian agent, how different would his actions be? Not very different I think.

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        if Trump was a Russian agent, how different would his actions be?

        Trump wouldn’t have sent arms like Javelins to Ukraine in 2018 and he would have stopped messing around in Syria.

        more obvious country that has a vested interest in dividing western democracies

        Only in the short term, to gain advantage in the war. Which other option than cooperarion would have been better for Russia? As the other submission about carving up Russia by China shows, China is only the second best option.

        https://feddit.org/post/23648591