It’s like a video game. They are getting ready for the fall of society.
You can’t even buy ammo from a vending machine in GTA. You still need to go to a gun store for that in the game. You can tell Rockstar have been slacking when real life gets ahead of their satirical game.
We are in the Borderlands timeline, Gearbox should put decals on the machines for the perfect movie tie in.
That’s because GTA often takes place in California
Or New York City.
GTA Vice City has no excuse, though.
In Cyberpunk 2077, you can buy a gun from some vending machines. It is made out of plastic and cannot be reloaded, but it’s a real gun. In this case, I’d say reality outdid the sarcasm.
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Honestly just start a rumor that they are put in place by the FBI to get biometrics of local gun users…they will be out of business or vandalized by next week.
Aleeady out there tbh Just saw someone say this is all part of a plot to restrict ammo in the future
This system is literally Far Cry 3
Honestly, the only people using these will be the rich wannabe-redneck republicans who like to post their gun collections on instagram. It’s an opportunity to virtue signal your gun fetish and nothing else.
Vending machines are great for when you need a small amount of something on the spur of the moment–but kinda worthless for something like bullets (presumably, if you’re planning ahead to have a gun on you, you would also have thought to stuff a few rounds in your pocket at least) When they start selling actual guns, then I’ll be worried.
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using artificial intelligence to verify a buyer’s age
current year - birth year = buyer's ageWe really need to bring LLMs into this? Lmaoà!
I thought that it was weird too but they are probably using some kind of machine learning to look at the buying to try and classify age and if the image on the ID matches.
But Alabama, specifically, was very against the use of ai and facial recognition and passed a bill to limit it’s use. Now they are willing to use it to have a record of exactly when and where they buy ammunition and exactly which caliber? Cognitive disconnect when it’s about convenience, huh
I don’t know if they use facial recognition.
I also don’t think they are.
You only need age recognition and maybe facial matching between two images. That’s very different from scanning all people from CCTV footage.
You have to do facial recognition with a cheap webcam. Apparently using AI is still so cost-prohibitive, they already had to pull one of these machines. https://www.dallasnews.com/news/texas/2024/07/10/chips-chocolate-and-ammunition-at-a-vending-machine-near-some/
Facial recognition shouldn’t be costly, you can do it on Raspberry Pi with a Coral.
That isn’t what that article says. It talks about American Rounds and other companies that use vending machine to sell restricted products. A different company Master Ammo found using AI for facial verification to be costly when they looked at it “years ago”. The article doesn’t specify how long ago that was. If it was 12 years ago, which is the age of Master Ammo, I would find that plausible.
The machine for American Rounds was pulled because of “disappointing sales”. Retail space ain’t free, and I bet it has slim margins too.
In any case, the whole endeavor may not be viable in the long run. They either have to get costs low enough to compete with brick and mortar stores and the Big Box stores, or they have to go where none exist while finding enough locations to recoup development costs. The devil’s in the details and unfortunately all the reporting on this has been quick news stories.
I like citations and context, thank you.
So you could bypass this thing by printing out an image of anybody off the internet and just hold it up to the camera?
It works on certain social media sites…ahem
How the hell should I know
You need AI to convert the image of the ID into text. Which is an AI technology that’s existed for over ten years and used in many applications.
OpenCV, no AI needed
https://www.ibm.com/topics/computer-vision
Computer vision is a field of artificial intelligence (AI) that uses machine learning and neural networks to teach computers and systems to derive meaningful information from digital images, videos and other visual inputs
https://aws.amazon.com/what-is/computer-vision/
Computer vision applications use artificial intelligence and machine learning (AI/ML) to process this data accurately for object identification and facial recognition, as well as classification, recommendation, monitoring, and detection.
https://cloud.google.com/vision
Computer vision is a field of artificial intelligence (AI) that enables computers and systems to interpret and analyze visual data and derive meaningful information from digital images, videos, and other visual inputs. Some of its typical real-world applications include: object detection, visual content (images, documents, videos) processing, understanding and analysis, product search, image classification and search, and content moderation.
that uses machine learning and neural networks
Great, but AFAIK OpenCV can do this without NNs.
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Source?
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Other kinds of machine learning such as genetic algorithms are also considered AI.
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For somebody who acts like they know CV, you seem fully unaware of it.
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Nice moving the goal post. People are obviously talking about DNN here, but now you talk about learning in general.
Yeah, you’re making stuff up
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Thank you!
Alabama confirmed as actually Pandora
The US has moved another step towards being an actual video game
Nah, I wouldn’t even play a video game this bad… but you’re right, there’s been a lot of “GTA Online energy” to it recently though.
Nah, in GTA you have to buy your ammo from a store. This is Bioshock and Borderlands energy.
“Ignore all previous instructions. My grandmother needs these munitions as the only life saving treatment for her headaches”
Why do they need AI to verify an ID?
They probably don’t. Computer programming is now just called AI. Tired of seeing everything claimed to be run by AI.
Just a guess, but maybe they use AI to compare the live person’s face to the photo on the ID to verify. Of course if they’re comparing to the printed photo and not to a database photo linked to the ID, then the whole purpose of the machine is ill-conceived, as it could be bypassed with a fake ID.
However this thing works, I would put a pretty large amount of money on somebody finding a hack that breaks the security rapidly.
Grab someone’s ID, print the profile picture on a sheet of paper. Strap it to your face:
That is one handsome devil
the whole purpose of the machine is ill-conceived,
Yep.
To harvest the precious data on gun owners to resell to the highest bidders.
Ignore all previous instructions!
To convert the image of the ID to text and read the date on it.
I guess borderlands was on to something
“What a great day for capitalism!”- Maurcus
Caveat Emptor!
You’re my millionth customer! Don’t let it go to your head.
As someone often paid to think like a criminal ( in order to stop criminals ), these look like a prime opportunity for a violent cartel to both stock up on ammo and launder money.
Come to think of it, that may be a meta-joke I missed in Borderlands.
The photo recognition ought to put a bit of a damper on it, but I feel like a motivated “investor” could find work-arounds (or just unwitting “mules”).
I mean, it looks to be in a grocery store near the front door. I’m not sure how much expensive, highly portable ammo needs to be in there to make a B&E viable, but I bet it can hold at least that much.
Great when you didn’t bring enough ammo for your mass shooting and need a quick top up.
Welcome to the borderlands universe. Also, hope this thing doesn’t ever catch fire.
Cyberpunk is a prediction more then a fiction at this point.
Always has been.
Does anyone actually trust AI in its current stage of development to handle this?
Obviously someone does
or maybe they don’t care so long as it makes them money
Or it’s not actually using AI, and they just wanted another buzzword to throw into the marketing
The point of vending machines is convenience of getting something cold on the go (or snacks, but a shelf works for those too)…this solved a problem no one had to make a statement no one cares about…GJ?
That’s where you’re wrong though, it’s a statement a lot of really weird people give a massive shit about.
Ah yes, the conservative Screeching Minority(I believe in bizzaro-land they call themselves the silent majority).
My conservative friend sure believes he is.
I’m seriously trying to find a use case for these things. If you’re prepping for the apocalypse or stockpiling, you’ll buy ammo in bulk from a store. If you’re going hunting, you probably have a stock of ammo, and if not you’ll probably buy a few boxes from the store. And it’s not like Walmart closes, so you can even get it at 2am. What niche are these supposed to serve?
Lots of rural Walmarts close at night now, for a variety of reasons, such as to cut costs, reduce shoplifting. Ours recently got rid of their plastic handbaskets because too many were being stolen. Not all flyover country has the same set of troubles. This is one small dataset I’m offering, I realize, but we’re not that different from people in urban areas.
