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I remember I got into an argument on reddit awhile ago with a person over Italian food. It got to the point they were following me into other subs to harass me. I clicked on their profile to block them and their most recent post was them drinking their own piss on r/piss. At that moment I realized I had spent so much pointless time arguing about the taste of food with someone who drinks their own piss as a hobby. This site is a shit hole.
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I reported an account that was posting CP and they banned ME for report abuse and let them continue posting but removed one of their CP posts. Reddit is a cesspool.
I wonder if Reddit could be held legally liable for trafficking in CP in that case. They were explicitly told “this is CP and should be deleted” and they didn’t act.
No idea, it’s weird they reacted that way because I reported all three of the CP posts on that account instead of just the one though. Evidently they have some questionable staff.
They didn’t care for many years when /jailbait or /creepshots (pictures taken of women without their consent) was still a thing. It brought them traffic along with all their other porn subs
They only cared when advertisers caught wind of them & considered dropping out
From Wikipedia:
Communities devoted to explicit material saw rising popularity, and r/jailbait, which featured provocative shots of underage teenagers, became the chosen “subreddit of the year” in the “Best of reddit” user poll in 2008, and at one point, making “jailbait” the second most common search term for the site.[3] Erik Martin, general manager of Reddit, defended the subreddit by saying that such controversial pages were a consequence of allowing free speech on the site.[117]
Yeah I learned about this recently. Insane isn’t it?
Probably one of the admins alts.
Crazy to think about but maybe.
So that is ok but if you post to an “unapproved” subreddit (even if you are leaving a criticism of them) you get banned from subreddits by bots. Then you accidently post to one of them from a 2nd account and your account gets perma banned. Yay! “Reddit, a place for open discussion for only people we approve of subject to arbitrary rules.”
banned ME for report abuse
Wouldn’t be surprised if the poster was a mod.
Reddit teaches you to not argue with people more than absolutely necessary. It’s a waste of time. Just stop responding to them if you don’t want to talk.
no it doesn’t
Yes it does
I paid for an argument, this is just contradiction!
No it isn’t.
Nuh uh
En garde!
Sus username
Humanity is a shithole. Social media is a cross-section.
I hate that pov so much.
Humanity is fantastic, wonderful, loving and amazing. It’s not a shit hole.
I’d argue society is really broken in some places, but not humanity.
As for Social media: it just brings out some dark side in some people. The vast majority of people on social media behave. It’s just that the outliers catch the attention.
I hate this pov so much.
I think it perpetuates that things are better than they actually are and inhibits change and progress… we’re all different I guess 🤷🏻♂️
Fair enough :)
I just don’t see how believing the worst in your fellow human can encourage you to improve things.
Pessimism is easy and lazy thinking. People also think it makes you look more insightful and wiser to look down your nose at everything.
But the poster you replied to has a point:
Just like most animals the greater majority of people try to avoid as many direct conflicts as possible IRL. And they’re full of empathy and compassion - even for other animals in distress and inanimate objects (saw off the fingers of a plastic doll in front of others and see how they treat you afterwards).
But of course people will lose a part of that compassion etc once they move within society without feeling like a part of it. One example is driving a car. You’re way less aware of being a part of society even though you’re “swimming” in it. Feeling a strong individual agency and being empowered by two tons of steel while simultaneously being greatly restricted by everyone and everything around you will do that to you.
Same goes for the (social) media landscape. We feel empowered by our own echo chambers and/or chosen media outlet while barely interacting with anyone who could challenge our beliefs (which, funnily enough, is often the right call in that context, because we can’t change strong opposing beliefs via social media). And since it’s all an indirect, mostly faceless interaction, our beliefs will automatically be strengthened and we’ll be more likely to agitate anyone with opposing beliefs (while still avoiding any direct conflict).
So I’d say it’s more of a flaw in our design, that is being exploited, than a general lack of sympathy/empathy (of which we actually have plenty).
Which means you can’t hold any one individual to higher standards. Because that’s not where we “fail”. It’d take a much broader appliance of social securities (housing, food, healthcare, education etc all over the world) and a fundamental change in the way we interact. But you and I won’t change that (though I guess it’s comforting telling ourselves that we could individually change things on a greater scale).
So everyone’s in agreement… humanity is a shithole
Thank you for being much more eloquent than me.
The average troll wouldn’t be an asshole in real life. They’d likely just be an average bloke like us all that lost theirselves in online anonimity.
Time and time again we see that in many disasters the majority of people in the affected community come together and help each other tremendously.
There is ofcourse always rotten apples and exceptions. That doesn’t take away from the fact that people are inherintly good to their fellow human.
One major issue is we assume the motivations of others all the time, usually negative. Add anonymity to the mix and you have social media rage. A good place to start is to occasionally think “Maybe I’m not 100% right. Maybe they are at least partially right also.” Also, “What could be their reasons for thinking that?” without dismissing them out of hand. The press encourages rage by presenting us with a filter of negativity and constantly pressing our anger buttons.
True psychopaths exist but not to the extent people may think.
If you consider that we are currently destroying our eco system that we need to survive and have known for over 50 years that the co2 levels will cause major issues, but nobody really felt the need to act. And when the countries actually sat together and made the Kyoto contracts the USA steped in and fucks up the whole idea. Thanks Bush you little Oil-fucker!
Considering that you could say humanity is fucked and humans are at fault. And if you look at it the people voting are at fault too, falling for company and other proparganda and voting for a government that fucks them even harder.
I would say humanity as we know it won’t exist anymore in 200 years. War, droughts, floods and shit will get us. Even if we would act now the whole planet would need to cooperate. No Chance!
Again, I’d blame society for that, not humanity.
I don’t know if you’ve noticed, but the actual power in the world lies in the hand of just a fraction of percent of the people. Those asshole ruin it for everyone else.
Doesn’t mean the average human is evil.
Yeah, I know! But do you see anybody care about that? Do the votes for political parties show anything that would mean they don’t like those corrupted bastards?
No! Most people don’t care or think voting for the same parties will change sth.
I don’t think I’ve ever met anyone who didn’t care about this besides the one-off sociopaths you encounter on the internet (though I’m fairly convinced that they also care but just feel powerless to change things). The problem is that the priority for most people is not starving to death within the next month, and that makes it impossible to devote time and energy into solving more long term problems.
The thing is the same people who fuck the planet are responsible for your nonexisting social safety net.
I know people only care about politics when they have nothing else to do, but this is the problem. Most people won’t make a well informed decision when voting, because they don’t have time to do that. I mean most countries you can’t even go vote on sunday
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Get off the internet and talk to some actual people
What do you mean by that? Real people are boring /s
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Nobody stops you you know… What an incredibly dumb comment…
Dog Im on social media because Im the shit in the hole. When Im not on social media Im overall a pretty worthwhile person. Causation not correlation etc.
Reddit was great for things like “Can you recommend some Italian restaurants in the area?” Then you’d get downvoted for recommending some Italian restaurants in the area.
You needed to read between the lines. People were clearly looking for piss drinking tips…not actual Italian restaurants.
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Pretty sure all mod mail just went to a box that shocked a hamster everytime they got a message.
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My experience with Reddit mods:
You’ve been banned
Message mods asking why
You’ve been muted
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From who? The Debian Taliban?
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We prefer being called debian fundamentalists, but yes…
“The So-Called Debian State”
Not being an Arch user, I see that trend as redundant.
If half of what is said about Arch is true, the system by default tries to kill the user out of sheer exhaustion from keeping it running.
I run Garuda, which is an Arch derivative. Never had much of a problem with it. I update it once or twice a week.
One thing it does is take a snapshot of your previous system before updating, so if something from the update breaks your system, you can roll it back.
Or a windows user…
I will say my next PC I may try to go with a nix distro after being exposed to so many of the latest features, in no small party due to the sentiment on Lemmy.
Mind you, that doesn’t mean I won’t use windows but I am curious to try. The constant bashing though has gone from slightly unexpected to annoying to now just cute.
What… That hasn’t happened to me at all.
Arch btw.
I use Arch btw.
Oh what a coincidence! I use arch too, by the way.
I use Arch btw
I use Arch too btw
Omg you use arch???
^me ^too
Loser
The site seems more like a piss hole.
Technically, this sub is a shit hole.
I got into a reddit fight with someone claiming they never once tried to plug a USB in incorrectly. Another time I got down voted to hell because I asked someone why they go through so many pizza cutters. They claimed they went through like 7 in 3 years. Reddit was bad, but I miss the nostalgia of it. Too bad it only got worse and kicked off third party apps. .
What’s a potato?
I’ve only had 1 pizza cutter in my life ( which is my mum’s so technically none ) it’s gotta be like 20+ years old and still works to this day.
Exactly.
So, not manufactured in China?
I got into a reddit fight with someone claiming they never once tried to plug a USB in incorrectly.
How would you know?
They claimed they went through like 7 in 3 years.
Wild guess: they eat a lot of pizza lmao
Wild guess: they eat a lot of pizza lmao
Well, autism is pretty rife on Reddit
They were cutting pizza on a concrete block?
Lololol imagine thinking lemmy is better than reddit for those reasons 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I have yet to have someone stalk me on Lemmy. Happened on Reddit all the time.
Yet. Reddit has been around for over a decade and has millions of users and lemmy has like a half million users. Lemmy isn’t better, there’s just a lot less of it. Duh.
Smaller is often better. See Usenet and the Eternal September.
For a site like reddit/lemmy, more is better. You need enough users that you can find any niche community u want.
I guess I would rather have less bots, trolls and angry assholes than have more niche communities.
I respect that, but I personally do value the goldmine of pragmatic advice and answers that virtually only reddit provided so quickly
Like with most things, more is better until it isn’t. Non-niche subreddits are night impossible to have any meaningful discussion on because there’s too much damn noise.
You can absolutely have the opposite example. I’m subbed to a bunch of niche Lemmy instances, and no one has posted anything in there for literally months.
Yup, that’s the trade-off. A reasonable solution is to use Reddit (with adblocking on) for niche discussion only and Lemmy for anything else.
yes, but it’s easier to create a smaller subreddit and get a sustainable subscriber base, than to create a niche community on lemmy and hope that people eventually stumble onto it.
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What’s your opinion on* Italian sausage and parm?
The people with the presence of mind, principles, and ability to leave reddit so seem to be better. I tend to like posts here better. That’ll change as better clients, more users and better stability come online though.
A platform is as good as it’s users. I left Reddit because it turned into a shithole. I’ll do the same with Lemmy if that happens.
I actually like the multiple smaller communities here, it’s part of the charm. If you think an instance is becoming too big just go to another one.
You can’t really do that on Reddit since everyone is on the same big instance.
Also leaving Reddit is the best thing for my mental health I’ve done in a while
Your opinions on Italian food are probably wrong and I love drinking piss
Lmfao
You and your conservacuck bumchums need to go back to Reddit and stay on Twitter fantasising about elon.
“People I disagree with are probably conservative.”
Oh no, you have to say that but use the words fascist now. That’s the new norm.
Well, “Everyone I disagree with is a Nazi” is usually a right-wing strawman. Usually.
Never voted GOP in my life. Try again.
Sometimes it only takes one comment to know my life will be better never seeing another. Blocked
It is great when a user make it easy for you to make that decision
I’ll take “examples of adult tantrums” for $100, Alex!
*…we still do Jeopardy jokes right…? *
The lowest dollar amount on Jeopardy! is $200 now and Alex Trebek has been dead since 2020, but yeah, I think so. Have an updoot.
Thx for the Jeopardy knowledge, Smeagol!
Like Patches O Houlahan from Dodgeball once said:
“I drink my own piss because its sterile and I like the taste!”
Not sure where that thing about urine being sterile came from, but no, it most certainly isn’t!
I assume the thinking is because it’s toxic, nothing lives in it. It’s an incorrect assumption, there are bacteria in it, but that’s probably where the misconception comes from.
I looked it up and found this:
For years, even doctors believed urine was sterile. The myth goes back 50 years, Hilt said, when a screening method for kidney infections was developed. It was a simple and easy test that was soon applied to bladder infections, too.
But the test involved culturing only a small amount of urine in open air, at a temperature of 95 degrees Fahrenheit (35 degrees Celsius) for 24 hours. Not all bacteria grow in those conditions.
Stop trying to explain jokes Gary, just enjoy the fucking things and smile. If someone is done enough to believe anything from a random comment fuckem lettem nature themselves away.
It’s a common misconception. I say let them spread the facts, Joel
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To be fair it happens here. Made a comment about far left & right being manipulated by Russian BS about Ukraine and some very tedious people started at me about how Ukraine are Nazis etc. I suppose it demonstrated my point in a roundabout way.
People here love to act like this stuff is exclusive to reddit when it is in fact a thing called “human nature” and can be observed anywhere there are people.
Yeah, it’s pretty much everywhere on the internet. It’s not unique to reddit or any other site.
“human nature” TIl being an asshole is human nature.
I was playing with randos on Ghost Recon Breakpoint and some slavic sounding dude was trying to explain Putin is cleansing Ukraine of Nazis. I was like, buddy, he better start with himself.
There are many valid problems with the Ukraine and it’s history. There are many conversations one could have about it and what the world should be doing in response to their situation.
The whole “They are Nazis!” argument doesn’t hold water the moment you carry their view point onto something like the US and ask the exact same questions.
There was someone who used to DM me on Reddit to remind me that I was a c**t.
I think this went on for several years until I just got tired ,reported him to the admins, and had his account banned within the hour.
Other good one was having death threats sent to me by a burner account.
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You need an email now?
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Wow, glad I left. I got annoyed because they essentially shadow ban any account on r/news without an email… never knew it was a site requirement lol.
Were you by any chance the mod of r/sciencediscussion?
Nah, largest sub I ever modded was r/boybands.
Certified Reddit moment.
Like n-word moments from The Boondocks, but on the internet. Far less chance of being shot, but definitely not zero.
This
“ew, there’s a hair in it”
This is the issue that’s so hard to see until it is explicit like your example. The time wasted, not spent on things of value is where this type of trolling costs us the most. In world news there were well thought out answers to some asshole who was just giving low quality taunts
World News and News were the worst. There would always be one accepted reaction to every post and anyone veering from it was downvoted into the basement at best.
