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    If those Americans could read they’d be very upset.

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    I just use

    30°C is hot, 20°C is nice 10°C is cold, 0°C is ice.

    Obviously that won’t apply everywhere, but in milder climates it works pretty good.

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      And 40°C is the melting point of the human brain.

      Which goes some way towards explaining some of the decisions happening in Florida, Texas and Arizona during their ridiculously hot summers…

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        I understand and appreciate your joke, but is it really? And I imagine that the bones and skin would melt first, right? Idk. I’ve never considered that someone could melt from the inside.

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          Not literally, no, but it can be very difficult to concentrate on anything else when you’re suffering under immense heat and a lack of concentration can lead to a figurative brain meltdown.

          That being said, the brain is mostly fluid, fat and electric connections so it would DEFINITELY melt long before your bones.

          Would have to be around 50-60°C for the 60% of it that’s fat to hypothetically melt if exposed directly to the heat rather than protected by the skull and cooled down by the blood, but that’s nothing compared to the 1670°C melting point of human bones.

          Btw, I hope you’re happy with this reply since my Google search history looks rather grisly now 😂

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      It’s the best way to think about it because if you’re always doing the calculation in your head you still always think in Fahrenheit first. Just get the feeling for Celcius instead of trying to shoehorn a worse system in (as a user of said worse system myself).

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      And it’s always helpful to remember that 40 below is 40 below, in both F and C.

      (Whew, ninja edit so I don’t look like an idiot, on Reddit I’d already have six people correcting me)

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        Texas is Hell though. Anyone who’s been there understands this. From the heat to the guns to the people, it’s far and away the least desirable or interesting place I’ve been to. Austin wasn’t terrible though.

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          Austin is the common “island of sanity” that happens with American cities. Is it enough to say in Texas… Not for me.

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        Don’t Texans just stay in air-conditioned buildings and vehicles all the time? I just saw a YouTube video where a guy in Texas was complaining that his air conditioning setup wouldn’t get the temperature below 76°F, which I found odd since I set the thermostat on my AC to 26°C (which is nearly 79°F.)

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          Yeah that’s absolutely a thing all over warm weather states in America. It drives me crazy that I try to acclimate to the higher heat and just end up inside with 68° air conditioner settings. Absolutely freezing my ass off. But the reality is that is more middle/ upper class living. If you’re doing manual labor or living in poverty, you know what the heat is actually like.

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      More like 30° I’m melted into the pavement, 20° warm but good, 10° is near perfect, 0° starts getting cols, -10° put on a jacket, -20° and below put on a good jacket.

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    For the other Americans that came into the thread hoping to see a conversion:

    • 10c = 50f
    • 30c = 86f

    Edit: I’d like to note that 10c is a very reasonable temperature for shorts. I’m a Minnesotan (basically Canada lite (please annex us)), people start raising eyebrows at around 0C

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        And if you want to do the math fast and just get close enough, you can just do “double it and add 30”.

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        Well with the whole northwest angle thing it’s only fair that canada gets Minnesota.~please anex us~I don’t want to share a congress with florida~~

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      0C? Fellow Minnesotan here and I’ve definitely seen plent of people wearing shorts at temps below -5C. But I’m also in a college town so that may change things.

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        I once amusedly watched girls sunbathe in bikinis at St. Lawrence University with patches of snow nearby in, I think March.

        Conversely, I personally wore shorts and a tee one fine vacation in Florida around Christmas. It was 60f, and everybody was running around in jackets looking like they were in Chicago in January.

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        Lmao, that brings back memories of going to open gym in high school while wearing basketball shorts in -40 with my winter jacket on

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      The quick conversation I use is take off 30 and half the rest to go F to C or double it and add 30 to go C to F.

      20C doubled is 40 and add 30. 70F

      80F take off 30 is 50. Half that is 25. 25C

      It’s not completely accurate but close enough for conversation purposes.

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      I learned during the polar vortices that when it’s -40 out it’s the same in both Celsius and Fahrenheit

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    Paraphrasing an old meme:

    Fahrenheit - how hot humans feel
    Celsius - how hot water feels
    Kelvin - how hot atoms feel

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    Jokes on you. I’m an american who works with scientific equipment so I mainly work in Celsius. Also live in Minnesota so we get the best of both worlds. Last winter hit almost -30C at times meanwhile tomorrow has a high of 39C with almost 70% humidity.

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      I was going to make the joke that Minnesotan kids definitely know what -40°C is.

      I moved up here from Florida to get out of this kind of heat and humidity. Thanks Minnesota. This is miserable.

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      I love the annual tradition of people posting youtube videos in which someone throws a bucket of water and it instantly turns to snow.

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        Yup. At least in my area. It’s not going to be pretty. Hell I’m outside right now and it’s over 30C at nearly midnight. I walked out the door and felt like I stepped into a sauna.

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    I certainly know what degrees Celsius are, but I have no idea what Celsius degrees are supposed to be.

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      Because each time we look for some English content, they use some dumb fantasy metrics based on the size fo the feet of a king for some reason, and we need to look up a converter to change it to a metric used in 195 different countries.

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        1 yard is about a meter. 3 feet in a yard. Just divide by 3 and that’s good enough for 99% of cases.

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          I think you meant Americans can multiply metres by three, instead of 195 countries accommodating to just them

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        I measure in freedom units brother!

        Also how did feet/metric get brought up, that’s not even remotely relevant, tf lol.

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            Because it’s a massive waste of money for little to no benefit, and barely actually comes up because unit conversion is trivial and is done constantly regardless of overall unit system.

            Armchair unit system fanatics make it out to be such a bigger deal than it is. Whether im working in metric or standard I’m doing several to several dozen dimensional analyses anyway, normally with industry specific units. Which again, exist in both standard and si.

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        If you grow up in the US, you learn both systems and you’re able to convert between them. It’s easy.

        2.2 pounds to the kg

        1 inch is 25.4 mm

        A gallon is 3.8 liters

        But it’s fun watching supposedly intelligent people from other countries who reeeeeee when seeing imperial units.

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          ? i don’t know about you, but multiplying 19" times 25.4 isnt something easy at all to do quickly in your head. Also, not to mention the best example: when i have to convert cm to m I move the comma

          when I have to convert from cm to freedom units: -Divide the height in centimeters by 30.48 and write down the whole number as feet

          -Multiply the decimal part of the above division by 12

          -Round the result of the multiplication to the nearest whole number and write it down as inches

          like, really? you have to use two different units added together for one thing? How is that easy?

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            when i have to convert cm to m I move the comma

            I feel the real war we need to fight over is whether the decimal point or the decimal comma is the one true decimal separator.

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            Freedom units… Oh, you mean imperial? As in, Britain? Yeah, we’re just using their old system and haven’t bothered to change unless there’s a practical necessity.

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              The British still gladly mix both systems inconsistently. They measure themselves in stones & buy cars based on liter per mile fuel efficiency.

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                Which is exactly why we had to kick them out of the EU. This is obviously a joke. They went because their politicians are incompetent liars.

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            How is it hard? Aren’t people in the rest of the world much better educated than people in the US?

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        They aren’t, which makes this meme even funnier because in my experience Canadians and Aussies are pretty likely to understand both systems and wouldn’t have a problem identifying either.

        I’d put money on this having been made by a European.

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          As a Canadian myself, it really depends. Most of us only understand farenheit in certain contexts. Some of us can understand it for weather but I think that’s mostly older generations. I use farenheit for oven and pool temperature only. In every other context, it is meaningless to me.

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            The crossover is so fascinating to me.

            Like you just nonchalantly use it for pools and ovens and nothing else. Kind of like we use liters randomly for certain soda bottles and basically nothing else.

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      I love that the meme is about Canada, Australia, and the US(ish), yet it’s the Europeans that get called out by this guy. Who’s living rent free in whose head? ;)

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    I don’t know if they stopped, but American kids at least used to be taught both Celsius and Fahrenheit. At least in some parts anyway. I was taught both as a kid, with my school largely banning the use of Fahrenheit by staff on campus even, for instance.

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    Shorts in 10C is standard practice for me. Really not that cold for us in the NorthWest. Now if we’re talking Southern Californians 10C is heavy winter jacket weather.

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    I was taught both.

    Just like I was taught both metric and imperial.

    I use both temp scales, though fahrenheit is more common.

    I use both measurements scales, though imperial is more common.

    One thing I’ve never understood though. Metric is more precise for measurements (at least without needing to involve fractional measures). I totally get why it’s superior for a lot of things, and indeed it is used in many places for this exact reason.

    Why would anyone say Celsius is better? Apart from freezing and boiling temps seeming somewhat arbitrary with fahrenheit, does it not allow for much higher precision with regards to temperature identification without resorting to decimals? Isn’t this the same rationale used with metric vs imperial? It seems like a double standard to me, because remembering two temperatures (for boiling and freezing) seems like a small price to pay for a more precise system.

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      Because precision has nothing to do with it and it’s all about being easy to convert between different units and having sensible zero and 100-points for temperature?

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        How often do you convert temperature to different units? Isn’t that what we are stupid for doing?

        And I would like to know why precision is irrelevant for temperature but relevant for other things.

        I’m being genuine, I’m not trying to shit on you. I’m pretty open about liking the metric system, and I think the reason we don’t use it is largely the extreme administrative costs of doing so more than anyone thinking imperial is actually better. I think most agree it’s pretty clearly worse.

        But I legitimately don’t understand how people can argue Celsius over fahrenheit when the arguments for fahrenheit largely match those for the metric system.

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          How often do you convert temperature to different units? Isn’t that what we are stupid for doing?

          I was talking about Metric as a whole, where the units of measurement for distance, mass, etc. are easily convertible and the unit for temperature has sensible zero- and 100-points. I would have thought that was obvious.

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        Why write 36.111 C when you could write 97 F? Its the same reason you write 3cm instead of 0.03m. Its just more convenient even though its the same thing.

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          Why write 36.111 C when you could write 97 F?

          Why write 96.8 F when you could write 36 C? Do you honestly believe that we’re thinking about temperatures in Fahrenheit and then just converting to Celsius when we write them down?

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            In fairness to Fahrenheit, you can round it to a whole number with a lesser difference in feel. That’s more for feel though, for measurements of temp in cooking or chemistry, Celsius is useful due to boiling point.

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              Agreed, though if you are measuring it via instrument then what difference does it make how “round” the number is?

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            Do you honestly believe that we’re thinking about temperatures in Fahrenheit and then just converting to Celsius when we write them down?

            Why on earth would I think that? I made the comparison to other units of measurement to demonstrate why smaller units are useful in some cases. There are cases where its not useful, but there are also many cases where the advantages of Celsius aren’t useful. Neither is inherently better, the correct one to use is the one you know better or the one that fits the use case better.

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        Fahrenheit has a fairly sensible 0 - just as Celsius is the temp of ice water, Fahrenheit is the temp of salty ice water.

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      I’ve always thought Fahrenheit was the better measurement in regards to weather. 0 F is uncomfortably cold, 100 F is uncomfortably hot. It makes so much sense for the weather. 0 C is freezing, 100 C you are dead. Of course, for most things Celsius makes more sense, and even though I live in the US I don’t even know how to measure computer temperatures in F, it just sounds crazy. When it comes to weather though? Fahrenheit is where it is, in my opinion.

      Please guys, I know plenty of you will disagree with me, that’s okay, this is just my opinion. Please don’t get upset I know metric is generally better!

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        I always found fahrenheit a lot more arbitrary: in Celsius 0 is the freezing of water, so if you are driving/walking, that is a very important temperature to look out for. Also 30 being hot or 100 being hot outside does not really make a difference. Some people find 30 hot, some other find it OK, since its subjective anyway

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        You are already using Celsius as well. If you just did not know Fahrenheit, you obviously would not miss it. To us Celcius feels just as natural as Fahrenheit does to you. It would be nice to have one global system we can agree on, just like we agree on english being the language of the internet. English is my 2nd language and if I can learn a whole other language, then americans can learn metric. (Is celcius part of the metric system? I have no idea tbh)

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        Fahrenheit is asking a human how hot it is, Celsius is asking water. This is what I was taught. I have no idea how you ask water for anything

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            The problem is that humans are subjective in my opinion. Water is not (or at least not the the degree humans are). With the same pressure, all water freeze at the same temp. Ask a Minnesotan or a Floridian (just to remain within the US, can use Greek/Norwegian for EU) what “cold” means, and they’ll have VERY different answers

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            I mean, we could get the temperature up to 100 and see which are human and which are meat…

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      I pointed something similar with regard to thermometers to a group of European tourists. In Farenheidt, 98.6 is the normal temperature and if you are getting sick, people will say that 99 is a low-grade fever. While that is a. 4 degree difference in F, that’s only a .2 difference in C.

      Likewise for weather, F is much more precise and easier to communicate given that there is a smaller interval between units. There’s more than 2 units difference in F for every 1 unit difference in C. That’s huge when you’re talking about the difference between 38 and 39 C

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    American here. Always knew C temps.

    10 c cool 20 c perfect 30 c ok I need shade and a body of water 40 c wtf 50 c I’m dead