• theragu40@lemmy.world
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    I was taught both.

    Just like I was taught both metric and imperial.

    I use both temp scales, though fahrenheit is more common.

    I use both measurements scales, though imperial is more common.

    One thing I’ve never understood though. Metric is more precise for measurements (at least without needing to involve fractional measures). I totally get why it’s superior for a lot of things, and indeed it is used in many places for this exact reason.

    Why would anyone say Celsius is better? Apart from freezing and boiling temps seeming somewhat arbitrary with fahrenheit, does it not allow for much higher precision with regards to temperature identification without resorting to decimals? Isn’t this the same rationale used with metric vs imperial? It seems like a double standard to me, because remembering two temperatures (for boiling and freezing) seems like a small price to pay for a more precise system.

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      I’ve always thought Fahrenheit was the better measurement in regards to weather. 0 F is uncomfortably cold, 100 F is uncomfortably hot. It makes so much sense for the weather. 0 C is freezing, 100 C you are dead. Of course, for most things Celsius makes more sense, and even though I live in the US I don’t even know how to measure computer temperatures in F, it just sounds crazy. When it comes to weather though? Fahrenheit is where it is, in my opinion.

      Please guys, I know plenty of you will disagree with me, that’s okay, this is just my opinion. Please don’t get upset I know metric is generally better!

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        I always found fahrenheit a lot more arbitrary: in Celsius 0 is the freezing of water, so if you are driving/walking, that is a very important temperature to look out for. Also 30 being hot or 100 being hot outside does not really make a difference. Some people find 30 hot, some other find it OK, since its subjective anyway

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        You are already using Celsius as well. If you just did not know Fahrenheit, you obviously would not miss it. To us Celcius feels just as natural as Fahrenheit does to you. It would be nice to have one global system we can agree on, just like we agree on english being the language of the internet. English is my 2nd language and if I can learn a whole other language, then americans can learn metric. (Is celcius part of the metric system? I have no idea tbh)

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        Fahrenheit is asking a human how hot it is, Celsius is asking water. This is what I was taught. I have no idea how you ask water for anything

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            The problem is that humans are subjective in my opinion. Water is not (or at least not the the degree humans are). With the same pressure, all water freeze at the same temp. Ask a Minnesotan or a Floridian (just to remain within the US, can use Greek/Norwegian for EU) what “cold” means, and they’ll have VERY different answers

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            I mean, we could get the temperature up to 100 and see which are human and which are meat…

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      Because precision has nothing to do with it and it’s all about being easy to convert between different units and having sensible zero and 100-points for temperature?

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        How often do you convert temperature to different units? Isn’t that what we are stupid for doing?

        And I would like to know why precision is irrelevant for temperature but relevant for other things.

        I’m being genuine, I’m not trying to shit on you. I’m pretty open about liking the metric system, and I think the reason we don’t use it is largely the extreme administrative costs of doing so more than anyone thinking imperial is actually better. I think most agree it’s pretty clearly worse.

        But I legitimately don’t understand how people can argue Celsius over fahrenheit when the arguments for fahrenheit largely match those for the metric system.

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          How often do you convert temperature to different units? Isn’t that what we are stupid for doing?

          I was talking about Metric as a whole, where the units of measurement for distance, mass, etc. are easily convertible and the unit for temperature has sensible zero- and 100-points. I would have thought that was obvious.

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        Why write 36.111 C when you could write 97 F? Its the same reason you write 3cm instead of 0.03m. Its just more convenient even though its the same thing.

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          Why write 36.111 C when you could write 97 F?

          Why write 96.8 F when you could write 36 C? Do you honestly believe that we’re thinking about temperatures in Fahrenheit and then just converting to Celsius when we write them down?

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            In fairness to Fahrenheit, you can round it to a whole number with a lesser difference in feel. That’s more for feel though, for measurements of temp in cooking or chemistry, Celsius is useful due to boiling point.

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              Agreed, though if you are measuring it via instrument then what difference does it make how “round” the number is?

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            Do you honestly believe that we’re thinking about temperatures in Fahrenheit and then just converting to Celsius when we write them down?

            Why on earth would I think that? I made the comparison to other units of measurement to demonstrate why smaller units are useful in some cases. There are cases where its not useful, but there are also many cases where the advantages of Celsius aren’t useful. Neither is inherently better, the correct one to use is the one you know better or the one that fits the use case better.

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        Fahrenheit has a fairly sensible 0 - just as Celsius is the temp of ice water, Fahrenheit is the temp of salty ice water.

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      I pointed something similar with regard to thermometers to a group of European tourists. In Farenheidt, 98.6 is the normal temperature and if you are getting sick, people will say that 99 is a low-grade fever. While that is a. 4 degree difference in F, that’s only a .2 difference in C.

      Likewise for weather, F is much more precise and easier to communicate given that there is a smaller interval between units. There’s more than 2 units difference in F for every 1 unit difference in C. That’s huge when you’re talking about the difference between 38 and 39 C