Edit: Oops, it is /r/Tennessee, not /r/ProgressiveHQ

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    1 month ago

    Tennessean here who tried to organize on my state/city subreddits. Can confirm this kind of partisan censorship is not new.

    A while ago I made a innocuous enough post on my city’s sub about a “Release the Epstein Files” billboard that went up and was paid for by our local Mobilize chapter. Within an hour it was the most upvoted post of the past month. Within 2, it was removed without reason and I was blocked and banned permantly

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      1 month ago

      That’s Reddit, I was banned from a Pokemon Go subreddit for being against Niantic forcibly leaving their sandbox environment on iOS.

      • CatsPajamas@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        I was banned from Reddit by Reddit for calling out a shill. And then they censored my post and deleted it from my data request so that it was impossible to prove I wasn’t inciting violence. That whole place is fucked.

        • RustyShackleford@piefed.social
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          1 month ago

          It sounds exactly like the behavior of Reddit moderators. The entire platform was a form of hidden marketing; if anyone discovered it, they would flag or ban you.

      • LOGIC💣@lemmy.world
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        1 month ago

        We need to be careful on Lemmy. Only the fact that the moderators and admins have goodwill are keeping Lemmy from becoming like Reddit. If Lemmy gets big and starts attracting people who want to pay to take over communities, that will stretch the moderator goodwill to the limits.

        • Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          1 month ago

          The difference being that Lemmy supports multiple communities with the same name.

          If an instance is allowing their communities to be sold, they can be defederated.

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            As the number of users goes up, it becomes more difficult to enforce that way. Even if many people switch communities, when new ones search for the community by name, the one with the most users will pop up first. And it becomes more and more difficult to justify defederating an instance over a couple of communities if the instance has a ton of big communities.

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              It makes me think that maybe “communities” wasn’t the way to organize, maybe you subscribe to a topic and see all posts for that topic on all instances.
              But moderation is good, and defederation is too severe a tool to use for moderation. It feels like there is no good solution.

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                1 month ago

                Piefed has topics I think (I’m mostly on mobile so not something I use but I remember it being there when I set up my account)

      • AmbientChaos@sh.itjust.works
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        1 month ago

        Super curious about the Pokemon Go thing, wasn’t able to find anything on Google though. Could you tell what to search or share a link? Thanks <3

        • RustyShackleford@piefed.social
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          Reddit mostly cleared that up by deleting the posts, and banning the users. They couldn’t risk looking like they did anything wrong, like working alongside a company to check for running apps on iOS, when it’s specifically designed to be sandboxed. Not surprisingly, other users discovered Apple was turning a blind eye to the attempts to check systems memory for hooks.

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    1 month ago

    Wow. Just fucking wow.

    Does Facebook and X do similar types of censoring when it comes to the Republican agenda?

    Or is it somehow easier to install them as mods on Reddit subs, making it appear to be more “grass roots” without blaming the platform itself for censorship and bias?

    I guess of fb you have “groups” (as opposed to subs) where you could install similar “mods.”

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      Reddit’s glory days were when it was big enough to have consistently interesting stuff, especially in the niche subs, but not so big that bad actors (corporatization, foreign influence, domestic partisan bots, hate groups) could enshitify it. Now it’s practically unusable.

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          We have .ml propaganda blaming our only hope of resistance for everything the Nazis do.

          It’s not much different from the projection tactic the GOP use. Just in this case it’s “you didn’t stop it”.

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            Ml dont have much influence and we can easily remove them by blocking or defederating them because no one controls lemmy and that is the beauty of lemmy.

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          Because obviously only MAGA can be bad people. Yeepee China and Russian number one!

          /s needed because we’re on Lemmy

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            I’m not sure if you’re American, but for me as an American Maga impacts my life many times more than china or Russia so maga’s evil is far more relevant in my life. But either way you are doing a lot of whataboutism.

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      You think Lemmy is better? Mods here are engaging in the same shitty behaviours. Lack of moderator accountability is a serious issue on this platform.

      Edit: brigading just proves my point, you dumb fucks.

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          Remember when the person behind GamingOnLinux decided to leave Lemmy after someone pointed out their community manipulation tactics in the modlog? Something that you have to assume they had been able to get away with as a Reddit mod. They then took to Mastodon or something to complain about how a modlog being public is “bad design”.

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            What kind of agenda would a GamingOnLinux powermod push?

            IMO the biggest flaw is that the mod log doesn’t append a copy of the content that was deleted. It allows mods to just straight up lie.

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              From what I have seen, removed comments definitely are still visible in the modlog. But if the mod just bans the user instead of removing the comment, all the user’s comments are automatically removed as a result and are not visible in the modlog. All that said, you are correct, this can be abused by moderators who understand the distinction and take advantage of it.

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        I absolutely have observed mods on Lemmy engaging in the same shitty behaviors (I am sitting on a post about a little cabal of !progressivepolitics@lemmy.world people who seem to be trying to rig the discourse in a particular direction to meet their electoral goals). But the simple fact of it being less centralized and more transparent (and with more of a culture of effective pushback against the mods) makes it a lot harder. They can’t just say “lol get fucked” like the mod from this post did and have that be the end of the story.

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          Plus federation means that the admins can’t just step in and shut down any competing communities unless they are on their instance. And if that happens, it just starts up on another instance.

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      At one point it was a glorious place. Then 5 people became admins and mods of the most popular 100 sub reddits and began controlling the narrative to fit their beliefs. In my opinion reddit has been dead for at least 5 years now

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    Personally i stopped liking reddit , bunch of cry babies on the sub Reddits .To many power tripped mods for my liking .I got banned from Reddit over power tripped mod who cried reddit . I was legitimately explaining my issue with meta and experience i had .

    Edit i am Dyslexic and i have a hard time with my writing. I basically tried to say i hate reddit because of the mods being overly sensitive and having a power trip. That for my liking is to much . I got perma banned because mod cried to Reddit because they did not like my post nor comment in regards to meta and my experience/issues i had.

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      You type like a bot, spaces after each punctuation, and your comment doesn’t make coherent sense.

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          I’m sorry. I didn’t try to assume anything. I just got frustrated when I couldn’t make sense of what you were trying to say. My adhd couldn’t handle the generalization.

          That being said, I got banned in like 15 subreddits when I simply posted a reply to a comment on one subreddit regarding my view on Ukraine. This was in 2015. I am Ukrainian. And I was banned almost everywhere because people thought I was a trump supporter. Nothing in my comments mentioned anything about Trump, only about the then president of Ukraine Yanukovych.

          It was wild to see that one mod didn’t like my comment and was able to ban me in over a dozen communities.