• Miles O'Brien@startrek.website
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    I honestly wonder when, if ever, we will get to the point that ICE is met with solid resistance that keeps pouring in and refuses to let them leave without shots being fired.

    I wonder if we will get to the point where ICE gets met with armed resistance.

    I wonder if we will get to the point where regular citizens see an ICE raid, call up their local militia, and take up arms to protect our fellow citizens from kidnapping, torture, and death.

    I wonder how long, if ever, before Canada opens itself to refugees fleeing persecution in the US, and a new underground railroad is established to get POC and LGBTQ+ to the saner land up north…

    This is where we are headed. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs to go back and relearn their ww2 history.

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      protect our fellow citizens humans from kidnapping, torture, and death.

      Forgive the pedantic nitpicking, but we are so much more than our relationship to a state

      Otherwise, excellent comment

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      Unfortunately, I fear that that the first 3 options would lead to something similar to a Waco-ATF incident. Civilians simply cannot surmount a force that has permission to use modern military equipment against the populace. It would be far more likely that the city would be burned to the ground, and each “law enforcer” would be acquitted in a federal court.

      I do believe there is a possibility that a hostile public would make things difficult for ICE, but realistically protected emigration would be the most successful solution. Even though I dont want to leave California, I may have to emigrate with the others to stay alive.

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        I heard someone reply to that argument once with, “ask The Taliban”. I’m not sure I agree. But it did make me think.

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      I honestly don’t think Americans have it in them to do any sort of serious resistance.

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    ICE is the enemy.

    Make sure they don’t go home at night.

    You can find tools for the resistance at your nearby hardware store.

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      The Fascist in Chief said it best (a sentence I didn’t think I would utter):

      “He who saves his country violates no Law.”

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    frustrated? fucking arm yourself! they are no better than Gestapo at this point, fuck those Nazis!

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      If you honestly can’t see how a non-white, non-hetero, or trans person merely existing isn’t causing good God-fearing republican direct, concentrated harm, then I don’t even know what to say. How dare they try and enjoy life while within the sphere of influence of their betters?!?!?!?! //!? /&?

      Next you’re going to suggest the poors are actual people.

      /s, in case anyone needs it.

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    Im so confused how these keep happening without someone eventually whipping out an AR and popping nazi heads. I would never condone that of course 👀

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      Because the gun nuts that you keep hearing about are either with them or on their side.

      These are just regular folks they’re rounding up

      Regular folks go to work, pay their bills, pay taxes and are part of the community.

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        The typical ones maybe, but life is a game of statistics. With hundreds of these happening there should eventually be some crazy dude on the “right” side.

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          Then suddenly it’s not okay to shoot anyone on your property and witb how ICE operates I see it as completely reasonable to shoot at unidentified masked men.

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          Be the first. See where it gets you. It’s a death sentence to the person with the initiative and the people standing nearby with hardly any payoff and probably an increased military/police presence in the fallout.

          Grand ideas alone can’t fuel a revolution.

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            You misunderstand, i am not talking about people being logical or strategic.
            Obviously nobody that is sane will do this, but the US is full of people that are not sane. At some point there should just be someone that has some sort of mental breakdown and stops giving a fuck.

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      As a California native, it is incredibly difficult to get the kind of firearms that you see toted around in other states on social media, because of our state’s gun laws.

      There are alternative ways to get weapons like those, of course, but it’s not very sustainable or comparable to something made by a proper gunsmith. Also getting your hands on ammunition in this state is both difficult and recorded at each transaction.

      For those reasons, its unlikely to happen, as much as it pains me to say.

      Of course, this changes quite a bit when people organize around this. But a lone wolf is not going to work well here.

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        While you can’t purchase a gun out of state you can purchase ammo out of state.

        Or at least to the best of my knowledge. Many states only want to know if you’re 18 before selling you ammo, effectively meaning no ID checks

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          Moment you cross the state border back, you gotta declare it, forfeit it, or try to smuggle it. Legislators thought of that, same with importing guns.

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            Imports have to through a FFL in most states anyway, but interesting they were able to apply that to ammo too.

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      Lol you thought gun culture was about freedom!? You think gun nutters are going to put our government in check. Hell no! They will be working with ICE to execute people soon.

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    lol there’s like random people innocently milling about on the sidewalk and these fucks are throwing flashbangs like play GI Joe much guys? Some 10 year old on CoD fucked your mom? You take yourself seriously much?