The genocide is still ongoing and many things are still developing in Palestine, but we are removing the limitation on only posting things related to the operation Flood of Al-Aqsa to this thread, you can now freely post over Lemmygrad again.
Please don’t stop talking about Palestine.
Due to popular demand, please keep all posts about the operation to this megathread, sitewide.
REMEMBER: the Occupier is unpopular the world over. People by and large stand with Palestine, even in the imperial core. The reason they are trying to outlaw protests for Palestine and supporting Palestine is because the ruling ideas are the ideas of the ruling class, and governments want to make their people think that support for Palestine is lower than it really is.
I managed to go to a protest. It was kind of an accident. I suspected something might be planned and went to the time, on the day, and to the place that protests usually happen. Maybe 200+ people there. Half dressed in Palestine flags. Speeches. Poetry. Songs. Messages passed from relatives in Palestine to share with us.
I’ve been tearing up reading about it all this week. But in person? It was more uplifting than sad. Seeing so many people willing to spend their weekend doing this.
I completely agree, Crit. There’s a good reason they don’t want us to go outside and connect with others, to see that we stand on the side of humanity and that history will prove us right yet again.
The interesting thing was that the police were clearly supportive. I was a bit surprised to see them nodding along with the talks. They didn’t join in the songs and the chanting. But from conversations I overheard, they were supportive. I joined a bit late so stood to one side and I also heard ‘ordinary’ passers by – you know, people who aren’t engaged enough with politics to join a protest – walking past and talking about how bad things were for Palestinians. Seemed like almost everyone walking past was appalled at Israel.
The public stands with Palestine and they know they’re being duped by the press. It lifted my mood significantly because all week I’d been given the impression from the silence of colleagues, my institution, my union, and the noise from the media that I was rather alone. Not so.
From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free.
The interesting thing was that the police were clearly supportive. I was a bit surprised to see them nodding along with the talks. They didn’t join in the songs and the chanting. But from conversations I overheard, they were supportive.
I have a feeling that they aren’t going to be in the job for much longer, then.
It was a strange atmosphere to be sure. There weren’t many police, either. Not for 200 or more people. I’ve seen more police at a party. I think for all the mouth-frothing in the media, the government isn’t actually that worried about Palestinian protesters causing trouble. Maybe it’s different in major cities. Almost certainly is. Like, I said, strange atmosphere.
How in the world is the public supportive of Palestine? If they aren’t supportive of communism and general anti-imperialism/anti-colonialism, how are they supportive of Palestine?
We cannot allow Amerikan “news” media to dictate to us where the masses are at. Zionist outlets want us to believe that the Amerikan masses are on board with ethnic cleansing writ large.
I know otherwise reactionary people – coworkers, customers, etc. – who loathe the state of Israel for what it is doing. News media would have us believe that these otherwise reactionary folk are anti-Israel merely because they are antisemitic or some other such hogwash.
This is a litmus test for basic human empathy, and I think more people are passing than failing. The Amerikan news empire does not reflect the will or the ideas of the people, it attempts to shape them. By virtue of their class interests, bourgeois “journalists” are always tailing us and tailing workers.
Anti-imperialist journalists and their outlets like Abby Martin (Empire Files), Brian Becker (The Socialist Program), SomeMoreNews, MintPress News, Multipolarista, and more, are gaining traction and have been for a while. Paywalls and opaque anti-worker rhetoric are making rags like WaPo obsolete to the masses.
We also can’t use astroturfed hellsites like Reddit to guage where people are at. Contrariwise, we shouldn’t necessarily use anecdotal grass-touching evidence as indicative of a larger trend, either. My experience on the ground has been far more akin to comrade @redtea@lemmygrad.ml than bearing witness to the countrywide cavalcade of [proletarian] Zionist warriors Western news media typically wants us to believe exists, though.
the situation in gaza is so precarious and israel commit so many crimes that is very hard to wash everything, so there is that notion that israel isn’t so nice, free and democratic so to speak
It’s the impression I got. Maybe it depends where you are. A segment of the Imperial core supports Israel, I know. But a significant section seems to be aghast at the idea of cutting of water and electricity to civilians and so many children. Okay, that horror might not manifest as outright support for Palestinians liberating themselves. Libs are gonna lib, after all. But the mood definitely feels like it’s leaning more towards Palestine than Israel where I am. I do think people feel scared to express whatever support there is, though.
Protests around the world: https://www.instagram.com/reel/CyZnJ1vPHEN/?igshid=YTUzYTFiZDMwYg==
Protest in London: https://www.instagram.com/reel/CyYPCmWtGrK/?igshid=MmU2YjMzNjRlOQ==
Just went to the local Vigil for Palestine but apparently the org canceled it just before the start, because the city didn’t want to give a permit. Still like 150 people showed up to lay flowers and burn candles. Police being the fascist fucks they are started intimidating people mourning a massacre.
Fucking fascists
To no surprise, now that there is a new major human rights catastrophy in the middle east, europeans are more worried about refugees entering their countries than the horrors inflicted on these people.
A Dutch channel has investigated the claim of Hamas calling for a ‘Day of Terror’. They contacted a Dutch newspaper, who said they got the info from a Jewish org, who said they got it from Reuters, who based it on a video of a former Hamas commander who called for ‘days of protests around the world, to show the anger on their city squares’.
So, they did NOT call for terror, but for protests.
classic
and all over twitter the american snowflakes didn’t hesitate to post pictures of their arsenals with superimposed witty phrases like “bring it on” or “we’re ready for you”
The Belgian Union has decided to boycot the handling of cargo in the (air)ports that contains weapons deliveries to Israel
Someone from the UNRWA is on BBC News right now saying that UN hospitals will cease operations tomorrow if they don’t get more fuel, and the reason for this decision is humanitarianism. They need to prioritise rations of fuel to power the water desalination plant and remaining bakeries, or else the people of Gaza won’t be able to drink water or eat bread. The UN has been able to provide bags of wheat flour through the Rafah crossing, but bakeries need water from the desalination plant to bake it into bread.
Already there is footage of injured people being rushed into hospitals in the darkness, other than from light from phone torches.
“Can you imagine what it is going to be like on the ground if you have to halt your operations and if there is a ground offensive?”
“It is going to be hell on Earth.”
Activist Ahed Tamimi has been arrested by Israel last night. She has close ties with our party.
Free Ahed and Free Palestina ✊🏻🇵🇸
Reports are coming out about Israel failing their ground offensive of yesterday as they got ambushed by resistance groups.
I had maybe a ten minute conversation with a Palestinian customer the other day about the operation and Israel’s response. It was rather enlightening.
He spoke of Ishmael, he spoke of the Arabs and Jews as being brothers. I mentioned 1948. We talked of most Palestinians welcoming many Jewish settlers – viewed at that time as refugees, even – with open arms, only for those accepting natives to be slaughtered soon thereafter.
We pondered together whether razing a hospital and destroying a mosque were adequate responses to children throwing stones at tanks.
He seemed very relieved to talk to anyone with a modicum of understanding. He said “you are a very smart guy” as he left. It was a strange but welcome experience. If I prayed, I would pray for his family in Palestine. I know we have some religious comrades, here, and I would implore you to include them in your prayers, if you so wish.
A group of anti-zionist jews in the USA invaded the Capitol building today and sat down on the lobby with banners calling for a ceasefire in the conflict. They were arrested.
I know they are not a leftists news outlet to say the least, but I have to give huge props to Al-Jazeera for their covering of the Gaza situation, often countering Western media with great detail.
Jesus Zionist Twitter is fucking depressing man. 1 for 1 Nazi rhetoric, some of the most vile shit, and no consequences for them.
Feels bad man.
Netanyahu:
“We have two forces – one is an axis of evil run by Iran and supported by Hezbollah, Hamas and others that want to bring back the Middle East to the Middle Ages … to the age of war and slavery.
“The other forces [are those] of progress and humanity who want to push for a world of peace and prosperity.”
The quiet part out loud
My father in law visited today and I dreaded the Palestine conversation. I must say he surprised me, being pretty Pro Palestine. But my gf surprised me even more in convincing him, suddenly quoting UN agreements on armed resistance, bringing materialism into the conversation, and talking about not dropping ideals to conform to the majority. I was like YAS QUEEEN GO and her father was even more surprised it seemed.
I just hope the rage of the general public reaches explosion point soon.
I thought your significant other was non-binary?
But regardless, your girl kicks fucking ass, I’m kinda proud of her.
Israel just bombed ambulances and justified it by saying Hamas was in it.
I’m not joking.
