- cross-posted to:
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- cross-posted to:
- vegan@slrpnk.net
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Good for Nijmegen. Especially focus on “endorsing”, which has always been done.
Yikes, how is that supposed to be uplifting? Sounds a whole lot like authoritarian overreach. Let people decide for themselves what they do and don’t want to eat.
No one is stopping them from buying meat though? There are still big sections full of it in stores that you see whenever you go grocery shopping.
Heck, I would ban the ads on all food products if it were me. Same with pharmaceuticals.
If you’ve gone that far already, why not ban all ads? It’s all brainwashing and mind control imo.
Should we start advertising cigarettes again so? Because that went really well! /s
This is the correct response.
I wouldn’t be opposed to blanket bans on advertisingin certain contexts. This however is the state going nanny on the populace.
Yikes, imagine conflating corporate advertising with freedom… Is this why companies hold so much power over us?
Ok but aren’t “Vegan meat” industries just another potentially shady Company?? Like how do we know they aren’t gonna fall into the same deceptive practices that the Meat Industry does? Just because an animal isn’t being harmed doesn’t mean there isn’t some corporate fuckery going on behind the scenes? (Ew now I sound like a communist or anti-capitalist.)
I’m realizing now this isn’t in America, so tbh good for them, I trust whatever they’re doing over there is honest. But if this was in America?? Nah… I dont trust the food industry here at all.
I expect you’d have a rather different stance if it was advertising for something you enjoy in life that was being singled out and banned.
It’d be very different if it was a blanket ban on all advertisement in these contexts, but it isn’t. It’s the government trying to decide what people eat.
I eat meat, so thats not true. I also smoke, so that’s not true. I use medicine, so that’s not true. I use drugs, so that’s not true. None of those i need to see advertisements for
Do i need to go on?
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Imagine watching ads to begin with 🥴
Wtf. Regulations on advertising are not authoritarian, what the hell. Even if we’d put shock pictures of what happens in slaughterhouses (or even better, videos right next to the meat packages) like we do on cigarette boxes it still wouldn’t be authoritarian. If governments would ban meat altogether despite a majority of people being against such a ban, that would be authoritarian. If a majority was for the ban it would be democratic.
Given the clear science on the effects of and mechanisms behind public advertising this is clearly uplifting news.
authoritarian overreach
Like deciding what animals live and die?
Stop projecting.
Like deciding what animals live and die?
Yup, in most cases it is the owners of said animals that decide what happens to them, like with other property. The government trying to force (or prevent) putting an animal down would also be overreach.
The exceptions when it comes to property rights are generally when human beings are somehow endangered, which is where most rights and freedoms, sensibly, are limited.
Your whole comment comes from the selfish belief that animals should not have rights. Yet good people are fighting to make sure people like you don’t just see them as property.
If you continue down this path, I’ll laugh when people start considering you and your family as their property. Because somehow you believe you have authoritarian power over animals.
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Meat eater here. Animals aren’t a fucking object. Lemme just get that straight.
I eat meat, I love meat, I’d probably try deer hunting if I wasn’t such a pussy (meow :3). But I feel as though what separates me from most other people is that I DEEPLY cherish the things nature gives to me, from the flesh of prey animals down to the Poke plants that grow outta my backyard. I’m more than thankful for their sacrifice.
If I was a meat farmer. I would love every single fucking one of my cattle, I truly would. I would strive EVERY single day to give them the best possible life for them. Knowing they will one day be put to rest for their resources, it’s only morally right to ME that I make sure every waking day they spend on this earth is the best. I probably would produce much, but I’m fine with that. I’m just glad I was able to give them a good life.
The animals I feed upon are not just “prey” they are a gift from the earth itself. I dont believe it’s helpful for a human to deprive themselves of meat altogether, We were made to consume plants and animals, no different from other apex predators. But what matters most to me is people respecting the earth and the animals that feed and provide for us. To act as though we are above them, that they are nothing to us, to kill them with no regard or remorse, and to waste their flesh is barbaric, it’s disrespectful.
idk, I think I read way too deeply into that Circle of Life speech from Lion King 🤪
Of course not, and even many objects should, at least in my opinion, be treated with some respect. I mostly agree with what you’ve written here.
To act as though we are above them
In my opinion, it is precisely because we are above them that we (or at least many of us) abhor unnecessary suffering and waste. The wolf however does not care when it slaughters a whole herd of sheep to eat just their livers and leave the rest to rot, neither does it hesitate to kill the zookeeper that has fed it for a decade when they slip up for just a moment.
That is true. But when a wolf kills a buncha sheep just to eat the livers, at the very least other animals in that cycle get to feed from the remains. Scavenger animals now get a whole-ass free meal, the bugs can now pick the bones clean if they want to, and the flies that lay their larvae will make a fine meal for smaller birds.
But with humans, its different how we discard animal waste? At the rate in which we do it, nature just CANNOT keep up. Im unsure if factories already do this, but if we could make it manditory dor ALL FACTORIES to recycle the remains of their meat products, I feel like the world would be a thousand times better. Example:
Need animal bones for a project or craft? Farmers now have shops that you can buy those from! The same can also be sold to people who wish to study animals but aren’t in a school to do so.
Zoo’s in need of meat for their carrion-loving animals? Factories can ship them ALL the delicious meat scraps they could ever want!
(I cant think of much else besides bones and undesirable meat that we discard so ima leave that example there lmao)
If anything, we can do what every other animal does and create a mutual relationship with buzzards and vultures!! idk what the general consensus is on feeding the buzzards but uhh… idk- they gotta eat too lol.
At least in my country, this is already the norm. If it can’t be used as food for humans in one way or another it can be used in countless otber contexts such as animal feed or fuel via biogas or biodiesel. Same applies to food waste from shops, restaurants and households.
Nothing goes to waste.
