The German government said on Sunday it was reviewing its hundreds of millions of euros of aid for Palestinians following the biggest attack on Israel in years by Palestinian Islamist group Hamas.

Development Minister Svenja Schulze said the government had always been careful to check that the money was only used for peaceful ends.

“But these attacks on Israel mark a terrible fracture,” she said. “We will now review our entire engagement for the Palestinian territories.”

  • JJROKCZ@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Doesn’t help that they murdered a German citizen at a peace festival and then paraded her naked body through the streets to be spit on.

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      Her name is Shani Louk if anyone else is looking to verify this.

      If you go looking for the videos, you will find dead half naked woman being paraded around on the back of a truck.

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        Thanks for the correction, this way they surely all deserved to die!

        \s

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          Certainly not what I said, it’s just important to fight misinformation, or worse - propaganda.

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              A “peace festival” would imply a festival themed around and with the explicit theme of promoting peace, and in this context presumably peace in the region.

              It turned out to be more just a dance party on a holiday night.

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          Considering CNN changed their reporting to say “The outdoor Nova Festival event in a rural farmland area near the Gaza-Israel border was supposed to be an all-night dance party, celebrating the Jewish holiday of Sukkot.” Instead of the previously reported “peace festival”, I’m much more inclined to believe that.

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    Israelis murder Palestinians, destroy their homes, attack schools and hospitals, shoot children, shoot doctors, bulldoze their refugee camps, etc etc, constantly, for decades and the world turns a blind eye.

    Whenever there’s an attack from the Palestinians the world loses it’s shit.

    Of course all deaths are bad but Israel are the oppressors here. Their actions are vile and now Netanyahu has said it’s “war”. If it’s war now what the fuck was it before?

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      No one is pearl clutching over dead soldiers, but when you machine gun down several hundred music festival attendees (incl. foreign nationals), rape the women, parade their naked defiled corpses around so others can spit on them, and upload the video to share with everyone, you’re going to get some international condemnation and re-evaluation of support.

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        Ironic since Israel has practiced “kneecapping” for years during protests. The reality of the situation is that both sides are shitty. But one of the sides gets a complete pass, while the other gets shat on and ignored.

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          Wait, so you’re saying that bad IDF acts justify sadistically murdering hundreds of civilians at a music festival? Well, that is some beautifully circular logic, because now whatever warcrimes the IDF commits during this war, which seems likely, magically become a wash.

          So when videos come out of dead Palestine kids in Gaza, I imagine you’ll gladly accept the same argument when someone points back to the festival and says “It’s justified because of this”, right?

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          I mean this attack very openly and clearly targeted German nationals. Its not odd for a government to oppose another government (if you can call hamas that) when they just up and kill and mutilate your citizens with impunity. Of course governments should also care about other people’s being killed but frankly they can’t for the most part because their interests always align with what’s best for their own people and close diplomatic ties is better than aggression. You kill their people, well no amount of grandstanding will save you.

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          Yep, both sides just fired thousands of rockets at civilians, intentionally shot hundreds of civilians at a festival, in homes, or on the streets. Both sides kidnapped civilians, including foreign nationals, and publish torture videos, defiling bodies, etc. both sides not just kill soldiers on the other side but raid, torture, publish video defiling their bodies. Yep, same exact thing.

          This “what aboutism” is as bad as the Hamas guy saying this is all just to get international attention for their plight. Yep, I see you as terrorists, and won’t object to however Israel responds, nor will I object to any support for Israel, including military. They’ve just given most of the world a reason to rally around Israel and ok whatever they do. Good strategy

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            Google the proportion of dead Israelis and dead Palestinians over the years. But you won’t, you’ll just react emotionally to everything since that’s more convenient. Both sides fucking suck. Both sides have civillians that get hurt. You equate hamas to the two million people that just want to live their lives. Which is basically equal to “all brown people are terrorists”. And right now, those two million people will be denied electricity, food and water and will be genocided away.

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              That will show you one thing only: Israel has the stronger military.

              It doesn’t say a thing about who attempted to kill more civilians, and who took steps to avoid civilian deaths. It doesn’t say anything about who has made concessions for peace, and who has walked away from peace deals for almost a century.

              If you think those numbers shows that Israel is the bad guy, you would absolutely shit yourself if you saw a similar chart comparing the US and Nazi Germany.

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            All violence in Israel and Palestine is directly caused by the Israeli apartheid. It sucks all those innocent people died, but I’m not going to feel sorry for them when they started the fight, and they continued it for 75 years.

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            You are a fascist Westoid and you’ll get what’s coming to you. The world doesn’t stand with Israel, the fuck? Only the imperial West stands with the apartheid state, just as they once stood with Africa. Fuck Zionism, Free Palestine

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      Buddy you summed up my sentiments exactly. It feels like the whole fucking world is suffering from some form of amnesia. What do they expect the Palestinians to do, just accept their own extermination?

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        What do they expect the Palestinians to do, just accept their own extermination?

        I mean you can fight back against your oppressors without massacring civilians, many of whom aren’t even Isrealis

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        I am not sure I understand the logic behind fighting a war of extermination when the other side is stronger and can actually exterminate you

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          Point me to where Ukrainian soldiers passed the border and shot up a festival full of civilians

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    Nobody ever “reviews aid” for Israel, no matter what crimes they commit.

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      Then again, Israel didn’t go into another country and behead people at the party.

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    When two sides fight, it’s the people who they represent that suffer. The people in power waging the wars never face any consequences for violence.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    BERLIN, Oct 8 (Reuters) - The German government said on Sunday it was reviewing its hundreds of millions of euros of aid for Palestinians following the biggest attack on Israel in years by Palestinian Islamist group Hamas.

    Development Minister Svenja Schulze said the government had always been careful to check that the money was only used for peaceful ends.

    Germany would discuss with Israel how development projects in the region could best be served, and coordinate with international partners, said the minister for German Chancellor Olaf Scholz’s centre-left government.

    Some German lawmakers, from the opposition conservatives in particular, called for an end to the aid.

    “All of Europe, all 27 states, must now say: we need a new start and we will no longer finance terrorists,” said Armin Laschet, chancellor candidate for the conservatives at the last federal election, calling for an end to EU cooperation with Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, who is based in the West Bank.

    Gregor Gysi, a prominent member of the opposition Left party argued against such a move, saying Hamas, and not all Palestinians, were responsible for the attack.


    The original article contains 206 words, the summary contains 184 words. Saved 11%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

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    All Western governments need to evaluate “aid” to countries like Palestine. Billions are sent each year to countries like Afghanistan, and it’s immediately used to oppress, abuse, and murder women and minorities. We need to stop funding terrorists and pretending to be surprised when they use our funds to terrorise people.

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      There was hope people are less easy to abuse when they suffer less, and have some education.

      There’s also a humanitarian argument to be made. After all, these are humans, not everyone’s pawn.

      I agree it did not work as well. On the other side, we don’t know how much worse it could have been without outside help.

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        I hope we’ve conclusively proven that theory to be false. Throw this on top of the theory that, as nations industrialise, they naturally democratise and become more peaceful. China has categorically proven this false.