It appears that the principal is backpedaling really hard. Even so, the kid still lost out on the scholarship because she missed the deadline to apply through the school.
The mother said in response to the principal’s apology,
“It’s too little, too late. I even told him on the phone conversation when he made it to us at noon today asking us to come into the office and he mentioned reinstating the scholarship, I let him know that the scholarship deadline was done, and the damage that he’s done to her is done. I also told him I gave them the opportunity when I came in there at 7 o’ clock the next morning, to try and rectify the situation at that point. Now, with somebody holding his hand forcing him to do something, an apology being enforced it’s too late,” said Rachel Timonet
Fuck the school system! It’s never been about educating children. It’s only about conditioning children to blindly accept what they’re told by authority.
From my experience, if people are not assholes, there is always a way. I’ve been accepted to a school when I missed the deadline by two weeks regardless.
Unless the school system in the USA is strict and non-negotiable.
Wow, when you watch the video is even more benign than this thread headline. It’s just plain dancing, nothing remotely scandalous.
What does shaking your ass at a private party have to do with your academics? This is the dumbest situation. This poor girl.
was seen dancing at a private homecoming afterparty on 30 September, behind a friend who was twerking.
she wasn’t even the one twerking
For fucks sake. I hope her family calls the ACLU.
I’d get the dance team members in on it for vaguely impugning their reputations, because when asked why nothing happened to them, the answer more or less had the implied subtext “that’s fine for them because we expect them to act like hoes, but you’re our hood ornament and should behave better.”
edit: in case anyone is unclear on my position regarding twerking
Seems like the easiest way to get into a really good school would be to sue, whip up a media frenzy, and frame it through a feminist lens. Write an essay about overcoming adversity by standing up for what is right, no matter the cost.
BOOM easy admissions.
This is infuriating.
It has everything to do with it because god said so:
“They basically told me that I should be ashamed of myself,” Timonet told a local news outlet. “That I wasn’t basically following God’s ideals, which made me cry even more.” “I felt like my life was over.”
Guys, it’s the same rules as any underaged closet atheist. Study your ass off, become financially independent, then twerk in front of your god fearing scholarship committee
Religion is cancer
Christianity is cancer. My religion supports your right to twerk.
R’amen
I mean if you’re going to be that pedantic about a comment that doesn’t strike me as intending to be nuanced and specific, there are versions of Christianity that are fine with twerking too
People say “religion” when they mean “Christianity”. This A) isn’t fair to other religions and B) helps to enforce Christian hegemony.
People also say “Christianity” when they mean “evangelicalism.”
I am interested in your religion
It’s Satanism.
Satanism is only necessary because religion is cancer though. Just like cancer, we need to use another thing that kills to kill it. I’m 100% in agreement with Satanism’s tenants, but it’s because they’re just humanist ideals wrapped in the garb of religion to use religion as a tool.
All religions are tools. Saying “religion is cancer” overlooks all of the good things that people get out of religion, such as a community with shared values that helps each other. If you can have a religion without superstition and dogma, where’s the harm? It’s not religion that’s cancer. It’s superstition and dogma.
I’m in.
Sounds like someone dodged a bullet! Bullet-dodge ass-dance!
@Coasting0942 @sara ooooooh. This is a religious scholarship? or a religious school? Alrighty then at least that makes sense.
It appears to be a public high school.
Sounds like some religious bullshit.
“That I wasn’t basically following God’s ideals, […]”
Yep…
I bet you if a male student raped someone he wouldn’t withdraw the scholarship. It’s because she’s a woman. Well, not even a woman she’s just a girl.
Yeah these people are Christian, that distinction doesn’t matter.
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Religion needs to be eradicated
By the will of the Emperor! Hail the Omnissiah!
Well when you apply for religious scholarships you should kind of expect this.
Jesus was friends with a prostitute. I’m sure he would be ok with some twerking.
The problem is religious nuts who take everything to the extreme .
Jesus would not condone modern day Christianity but that is not the point. Everyone knows what modern Christianity is about, and prudishness is definitely part of their ideal. If this girl applied for a Christian scholarship, she had to have known at least that much about the religion.
But a good lesson to learn from this story is stop posting anything on social media. Just live your life. If you wanna twerk, do it. No need to show the whole world.
Well maybe his friend was a classy prostitute.
Twerking’s demeaningly ridiculous. Like stripper, yeah, respectable. Stripping’s sexy, it’s alluring. Twerking’s just a somewhat athletically impressive display of how fast can you can convulse your pelvis.
Describing twerking as “sexy” is like someone doing a motorboat on your dick while you wag it bippidy-bippidy up and down across their lips, then trying to sell that as a passionate seduction scene in a romance novel.
He (the principal) said she was punished because she is the ‘hood ornament’ of the school."
Oh for fuck sake! This is crazy old fashioned bullshit right here.
“Shes not a woman, she is a literal piece of flare, FOR MY Institution REEEEE”
Excuse me, Real Life? pump the brakes.
JFC, that’s not just bullshit, it’s outright objectification and misogyny.
Don’t worry he quoted the Bible
the principal had referred to Bible scripture on several occasions and informed her he was ‘well within his right’ to enact the discipline he chose
Ah yes, I forgot that Jesus came down to earth and said “don’t enjoy yourself women, your only purpose is just to have children under our neofascist theocratic regime”
And Jesus said: Thou shall not SHAKE YOUR RUMP-AH
Devil’s advocate: it could just be poor choice of metaphors to say that she’s a representative of the school, which can reasonably choose to be associated — or not — with a certain image and perception of professionalism.
No. he would have used a more appropriate metaphor, His choice of words underlines his thoughts at large.
i would never refer to anyone as a fucking hood ornament. that’s dehumanizing.
His brazen attitude to speak about his thoughts and not consider them to be objectifying is scary.
This person is the authority who is taking her potential scholarships because of dancing. Your take actually makes it worse. She is just a thing to him and not a young girl doing a popular dance that women do. It’s probably even worse in his mind because it’s a dance popularized by black people from the city.
I’m getting pretty sick of people saying shitty things because they’re bad at metaphors. People who are bad at metaphors should just not use metaphors.
He didn’t use an inept metaphor. It was exactly the metaphor he meant: that women are objects, property to be exploited by his administration.
Louisiana is fucked. Can these conservative fucking demons finally all move to one place and start their conservative nation like they always dream out loud about and leave the rest of us the fuck alone already?
Fuck that asshole principal.
I bet his wife caught him jacking off to the video and so he had to react like that to save face.
At this point if anyone ever brings up religion to me outside of work, I’m just gonna shit on it. Tolerating religion is morally bad and religion should be as taboo as smoking.
Like, do it in private, but don’t bother other people with it. Seems fair.
Religion is like a penis. You can do whatever you want with it at home, but don’t go waving it in people’s faces, and especially keep it away from children.
I’m a bit of an asshole, but if someone is bringing up religion in public they should be shamed
“That I wasn’t basically following God’s ideals, which made me cry even more.” So a state institution imposing religious virtues on a student? How is that constitutional, something for the ACLU perhaps?
Sounds like something the US would invade a country for doing
Uhh what?
It was probably a scholarship for people with lower spinal paralysis. She was all set to collect the money but then she got roped into one of J-Roc’s grease videos.
Nope, after reading the article, it seems she was a student destined to be used for PR by the school and probably also for sucking up to donors. No humanity allowed, twerking is of the devil and such stuff.
Lol, the school was prepared to whore her out, but drew the line at dancing in a video.
Fire that principal. He’s a bad example for students.
Why’d they show the picture of the underaged girl in an article about her twerking? That’s really weird.
Because she wasn’t the one twerking in the video
Yes she was. You should read the article. It mentions the girls name, which is the same name on the diplomas the girl is holding. Also putting some random irrelevant person as the image would make zero sense.
No she wasn’t. The name matches because the article and picture are both about the person who missed out on the scholarship because of the twerking video, but she still wasn’t the person twerking in the video.
“[She] was seen dancing at a private homecoming afterparty on September 30 behind a friend who was twerking”
Probably because her parents allowed it.
US law has no identity protection laws for news reporting. They can attach your face to anything.
You’re just entirely making that shit up. Why do you feel the need to do that? https://www.findlaw.com/injury/torts-and-personal-injuries/online-photos--taken-and-posted-without-your-permission.html
Lemmygrad.ml is all you need to know. Not their turn with the brain cell.
The fuck are you on? That’s a random site that I’m sureeeeee works for random pictures taken without your permission being posted by random people, you think that’ll work against a massive news publication?
It’s a massive ethical debate, but you think that’ll stop them? The vast majority of photos used fall under fair use, since the second you post them to social media, they no longer belong to you.
That’s a legal site run by lawyers under Reuters, it’s not some random site. Do you have absolutely anything supporting what you’re saying, or are you making things up off of stereotypes you read on the internet.
Nothing in that article says what you’re saying.
You literally just googled “photos without permission posted online” and copy and pasted the URL here.
If you knew anything about the law, the constitution, and court cases, you’d know that journalists have unbelievably broad leeway to post whatever is deemed newsworthy, including photographs taken without consent.
And the proof falls on you. You’re the one who needs to show it’s illegal. Everything is legal until it’s not. That person can’t prove legality unless there’s a court case that overturns a law.
And? Nothing on the site states that you have legal recourse. Unless they’re slandering you; what can you do?
“Stereotypes” lmao
That’s not how it works. I don’t know what social media is involved, but from according to Facebook’s TOS, you grant Meta a revocable license to use it it a manner consistent with your privacy settings.
Specifically, when you share, post, or upload content that is covered by intellectual property rights on or in connection with our Products, you grant us a non-exclusive, transferable, sub-licensable, royalty-free, and worldwide license to host, use, distribute, modify, run, copy, publicly perform or display, translate, and create derivative works of your content (consistent with your privacy and application settings). This means, for example, that if you share a photo on Facebook, you give us permission to store, copy, and share it with others (again, consistent with your settings) such as Meta Products or service providers that support those products and services. This license will end when your content is deleted from our systems.
There is a potential fair use argument to be had (particularly since the allegedly infringing party is news). And it is not clear from the article who owns the original copyright in the first place.
So the girl in question wasn’t twerking, it was person “friend” in front of her in the video. She was just dancing. I consider myself pretty logical in most things and this doesn’t make sense.
The person in question did not commit any offense her self based on how the news article read. If she herself was doing something that did not promote a good image it would be understandable but this was not the case.
We really need to move to a standard which doesn’t judge people by their behaviour outside the professional setting. I suspect half the people lamenting this would be cheering it if she expressed opinions or behaviour they disagreed with. We need to have laws in place to protect people to do offensive things, or make offensive statements, which have nothing to do with their school or workplace.
You are correct, there is absolutely no difference between twerking and saying 6 million wasn’t enough, these are completely equivalent acts.
The severity is quite different, but the premise is not. These are both offensive things to different people. Either we allow institutions to police offensive things outside their walls, or we don’t. What you’re communicating to me is you’d like to be emperor of America, and only you can fairly arbitrate these things. I’ll let you in on a little secret: everyone thinks that. That’s why we have democracy.
I would say it highly depends on how it reflects on the institution. Twerking has nothing to do with any possible education she might have received. Saying that black people are unintelligent but good dancers shows the attempts to educate the student has failed them, which makes the school look bad if they get the scholarship.
Similarly, I’m fine with people who got fired for participating in January 6th. Any company that kept them on could face a major boycott and those people don’t deserve their jobs because they’re insurrectionists.
But this particular girl? Totally deserves the scholarship. Twerking is not a reflection of how she was educated.
I would say it highly depends on how it reflects on the institution.
This institution felt it reflected badly on them. You’re making a lot of subjective comparisons as though they’re objective. Either the institution has the right to determine what they find acceptable, or they don’t. If they do, you have to be prepared to accept that different people value different things to you.
A government funded state school has no right to push their Christian beliefs onto its students, which they clearly did, as quoted in the article.
Luckily, they also have no backbone, as they immediately reinstated everything as soon as this hit the news.
@JasSmith @FlyingSquid it was a public school. And they cited religious beliefs as for why they were so offended. That’s a clear violation of church and state and while it’s certainly not new or unique it’s not defensible or right.
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What a disgusting load of bullshit.
The school board is going to investigate. I wonder what will happen.
The article below has more details of the whole fiasco.
Anyone care to share the text of the article?
Disciplinary action taken by Principal Jason St. Pierre this week at Walker High School has brought national attention to Livingston Parish.
St. Pierre removed Kaylee Timonet from the Student Government Association (SGA) due to a video which was posted on social media showing her ‘twerking’ at an off-campus dance, which occurred after homecoming of this year.
The video, which was posted by DJ Savage who worked the event, showed Timonet and friends dancing to a song he was playing. The venue was later identified as Denham Springs Country Club.
advertisement Timonet’s removal from SGA also put two SGA-sponsored scholarships unattainable for the 4.0+ student, who is also President of Walker High’s Beta Club. In an interview with Unfiltered with Kiran (UWK), Timonet expressed just how badly she felt after St. Pierre levied his punishment.
“I felt like my life was over,” Timonet told UWK. "Everything I worked for since I was little, always worked really hard at school.
“Being student of the year, at least having a chance at it, has always been my main goal. I’m starting college this January. I’m done in December so it was a shock.”
advertisement Timonet’s mother, Rachel, was also in shock over the principal’s actions. She said that in a meeting with St. Pierre, she was told that the principal had referred to Bible scripture on several occasions and informed her he was ‘well within his right’ to enact the discipline he chose.
Local social media pages, groups, and residents took swiftly to the internet to express their displeasure. A Walker High student created a specific logo to represent the call that rose up from the community - ‘Let the girl dance.’ Many wanted Timonet reinstated, at a minimum, to SGA… others wanted St. Pierre to resign.
The story reached national media by Friday evening, including the NY Post and Yahoo News.
The school board Friday alerted local media that they have launched an investigation into the discipline, specifically St. Pierre’s handling of the meeting with Timonet and later, her mother.
Walker High School provided the News with a form which is signed by all SGA members. The form states that ‘failure to follow any of the aforementioned requirements, will result in immediate dismissal from Walker High SGA. Any action deemed inappropriate by Mr. St. Pierre will also result in removal.’
The form, however, does not mention anything about off-campus events, referring rules to school-based attendance. It is also vague on it’s references to ‘representing Walker High’ and where that representation begins and ends.
Wow, imagine being called a “hood ornament of the school.”
