Evidence suggests errant Ukrainian missile caused market deaths - New York Times
www.reuters.com
Evidence suggests a deadly explosion at a busy market in the eastern Ukrainian city of Kostiantynivka this month was caused by an errant missile fired by Ukraine, the New York Times reported on Tuesday.
      • PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml
        161·
        1 year ago

        Not even, there are 2 lemmy threads about it and both are nearly empty, just few hardest copers in one of them and single one in the other. Ignored like every uncomfortable thread there.

        For example, they are here, lauding a not only severe diplomatic blunder but also a lie.

        • Addfwyn@lemmygrad.ml
          11·
          1 year ago

          I should know better than to click the link, but I clicked the link just to see people circlejerking over how they aren’t being racist while…they are actively being racist.

          I will go back to not clicking the link. There are some fine communities on lemmy, but I can only take excursions to that World News community on rare occasions. It is bad for my blood pressure.

          • PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml
            91·
            1 year ago

            Like half of that thread is orientalism and the other half attacks on hexbear. Also note that hexbear can’t even see that thread which libs there themself point out, selfadmitting they huddle where hexbears can’t see them and circlejerk impotently.

            To all hexbear comrades reading this: your shitposting works. They are afraid.

    • Dessa@lemmygrad.ml
      13·
      1 year ago

      Or that Nordstream 2’s sabotage wasn’t a false-flag perpetrated by the very people that benefitted from it the most, and not their mortal enemies!

    • Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml
      18·
      1 year ago

      Pretty sure they started with themselves (even if you don’t count Donbass bombings since 2014). I’m sure you have seen a video from last year of a missile striking the facade of an apartment building and shearing off a chunk of it. Back then, all media and internet screeched how it was Russian X-101 - which is easily disproven by taking a look at X-101’s payload and the actual photos of things struck by it. Let’s just say it’s significantly higher.

      The actual culprit was a Ukrainian S-300 missile sent to intercept the aforementioned airstrike, and misfiring. It struck the apartment building, because AFU has been positioning their artillery (and AA batteries) between, inside and on top of civilian buildings

        • Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml
          2·
          1 year ago

          I may have mixed up the missiles, so apologies for that. However:

          Here’s a photo from when an X-22 missile got intercepted and fell on a residential building. Note the level of destruction and keep in mind this was not a direct strike, but a partial detonation.

          This is the result of a missile hit in Kiev, that was proclaimed by the media to be “Russians attacking residential buildings”. Note the level of destruction.

          As you can see, there’s a pretty clear difference. Some links for reference:

          X-55/101

          X-22

          S-300

            • Shrike502@lemmygrad.ml
              2·
              1 year ago

              X-55 has a yield of 200kt

              Sounds too big, that’s probably the nuclear version. As for X-22:

              Search results are oddly quiet about the yield, but I was able to scrounge some evidence. So X-22 has a 960 kg warhead in the newer variants, and 630-900 kg for the older ones. During the tests, the missile left an up to 22 square meters hole in the target (mock air carrier), while the shaped charge burned through the bulkheas for up to 12 meters.

              FAB-500 bomb has, as the name suggests, 500 kg warhead (it’s a simple bomb, so no fancy bits, just the warhead basically). FAB-500 allegedly creates a crater 3m deep and 8m wide, with a 150-250m damage radius (sources differ). That would be shards and blastwave.

              I daresay the larger X-22 would have at least as large area of damage. It was designed to be used against fairly tough targets (carrier ships), so it’s somewhat less of a “kill everything around” type. But with a warhead this big? We can do the math.

              Side note: searching this stuff on Google specifically yields ukranian resources. I’m sure there’s no bias.