• JJROKCZ@lemmy.world
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    Good. Defy unjust laws brazenly whenever possible, otherwise change will never happen

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    This isn’t Nintendo “defying” anything, they’re just going with the times.


    Clarification: There is no law specifically banning gay marriage in Japan(it’s just not included yet), courts support giving gay people constitutional protection, they legally reckognize gay marriage if married in another country, around 70% of people openly support it, etc.

    There are also dozens of large cities and wards that have a “civil union” style system that helps with the strict apartment renting system in Japan and similar things like having a right to see your loved one in a hospital, some add provisons so gay couple can adopt as well.

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          In popular anime and Japanese games there are dozens of characters that are gender neutral, open cross dressers, transgender, etc. Some anime have characters that are specifically made to be gender neutral, as a part of the plot.

          Individuals don’t care that much, it’s just that the culture in and of itself is a bit conservative. So long term/permanent changes take a long time to implement, specially when it comes to things like the constition and federal laws. To further illustrate: Some companies still use floppy disks…

          As an example:

          Felix Argyle - A male charcter in a fairly popular anime(In Japan and internationally), which dresses and acts feminine but is fully open about being male if you ask. It’s just that most people in the show don’t ask.

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      I mean, legality aside, lots of companies have suffered financially for doing anything perceived as supporting anything LGBTQ lately. Target, Starbucks, Bud, etc. They’re definitely defying the urge to stay silent and neutral when it seems best to for business.

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          They haven’t, every single one of them are up Y/Y on revenue as of their last earnings. This dude is just trying to drum up outrage.

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          Jesus christ you fucking killed him man.

          Also I had no idea the conservative backlash against these companies was so anemic. It really warms my heart to know that these bigoted fuckwits really are a loud minority.

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            It almost always is! There’s a lot of shit wrong in this world, but where American hillbillies choose to spend their money is absolutely not worth the media/social media attention we give it for some reason.

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          Look at their stock prices though… everything has been bullish. Theirs have been dropping.

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            Stocks go up, stocks go down. Outrage has a short attention span. That being said, Bud Light was weathering the criticism just fine until they back-tracked and tried to reverse it to win back the idiots. Losing the LGBT+ customers hurt them far more, and it looks unlikely that they will retain their “Official Beer of Pride” title. Hatred just isn’t profitable.

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        I don’t think a Japanese company targeting the youth is concerned about what American conservatives think.

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          Cool. I think it’s generally “easier, albeit lazy and wrong, for companies to choose be silent, and I give Nintendo some credit for not going with the “easy” option.

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        You have to look at their customer makeup. Budweiser losing money doesn’t surprise me at all but I’m kind of surprised at Starbucks. Although they probably have a lot of Karens going there, too

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          Starbucks could just be a victim of the economic downturn: anyone looking to spend less is going to start with expensive coffee drinks.

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        I not sure if there’s that cause and effect. It’s probably more something in the lines of:

        “How can we turn around this failing business? I know! Let’s openly support LGBTQ! That will make people return to buy our product. Oh no! People didn’t care.”

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          Those businesses weren’t failing. The decline in sales is perfectly timed with right wing outrage. 30-40% of this country is now triggered by rainbows.

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              Sorry. Sales wasn’t the right term.

              Their stocks have dropped by an average of 20% when others have done the reverse.

              Corporations like to see their stocks go up not down. FYI.

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                Their stock prices dropped because they missed previous earnings. SBUX and BUD are up big since they beat. Share prices are closely correlated with earnings FYI.

                Stop pulling nonsense out of your ass to elicit an emotional reaction.

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                  Stop being emotional

                  Ok, dude. You seem really unable to have a discussion at all. You’re the only one who seems upset on the attack and doing the keyboard warrior dance.

                  I don’t mind being corrected, or discussing the details. I’ve shown no emotion in this.

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    Surprised Mario Kart hasn’t been labeled “woke” by conservatives yet over Rainbow Road!

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      In this case, sure. But they are also doing a lot of big shitty corporation things, like going after emulators despite not offering any alternatives to be able to play older games.

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        PR or not, they’re doing something fairly radical as a Japanese company. It means a lot coming from them and in defiance of government/public discrimination.

        I agree with your sentiment about their actions towards emulators but I think the issues can reasonably be separated out.

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    It’s incredible to see Nintendo change their stance on anything. One of the most conservative companies I can think of when it comes to why topic.

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      Nah, they’ve changed since the old days. Look at how much is released completely uncensored on the Switch compared to PlayStation - Sony’s rules are significantly stricter.

      When it comes to emulation and game preservation though…ha, no - Nintendo have stayed just as bad and clueless as ever