• Dasus@lemmy.world
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    You’ve never heard of Social Security?

    Oh, you’ve never heard of the The Democratic People’s Republic of Korea? As you can see from the name, they’re definitely democratic.

    The US social security is a bad joke compared to other developed nations.

    To say “USA has been championing socialist policies for 100 years” is on the same level as saying “China has been championing personal freedom for 100 years”.

    The US doesn’t even have direct presidential elections, which by the standard of developed democratic nations is extremely weird.

    There’s a lot there I don’t need to comment on. I’m challenging you on your “America has been championing socialist policies for 100 years” comment.

    Compared to European social security and labour laws, US socialist policies and labour laws are pretty much on the level of developing nations — if that.

    Case in point; Among 41 countries, only U.S. lacks paid parental leave

    Are you honestly trying to use public roads as an example of “having championed socialist policies”? Not exactly the most novel or progressive policy, I would say.

    https://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/a-paradigm-shift-in-social-policy-how-finland-conquered-homelessness-a-ba1a531e-8129-4c71-94fc-7268c5b109d9

    Last Week Tonight with John Oliver - Homelessness

    https://www.cbpp.org/research/social-security/social-security-benefits-are-modest

    Social Security benefits in the United States are lower than many other developed countries.

    You have people who are employed full time, some even in two jobs, who still have to live and shit on the street.

    “Championing socialist policies” lol

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      Literal strawman nonsense, look at this man go. I think you should understand that America is attempting to erode a woman’s right to vote. That’s what I’m saying. That all these people that think America should continue down the path of abandoning modern democracy should look into Americas past and understand the points in time in which it has championed for rights.

      Thats the way you use that word. You’re literally admitting you’re ESL and can’t use English as well as I can. You’ve built a massive strawman on this simple fact. Other commentors can see my point. You can’t. Sorry.

      Like I actually can’t believe you’ve built this massive of a strawman, it’s incredible. All because you don’t know the definition of a word. That’s literally all you go back to, as well. Nothing else I say matters. You just masturbate to your strawman, Mr Fin.

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        You don’t understand what a strawman argument is.

        ESL? No, that’s “English as a second language”. Mine is technically third. My English is better than 60% native speakers (a large 60min test by a professional). And that counts countries which aren’t on the level of developing nations when it comes to literacy figures

        America is attempting to erode a woman’s right to vote.

        America has been championing socialist policies for 100 years.

        So which one do you believe in this one?

        It’s quite hilarious how often I end up teaching Americans English. While this is my third language, I’m fairly sure I’ve used it longer, more and in more academic contexts than you have. That’s why I don’t make up meanings for words when someone proves me wrong.

        champion verb

        vigorously support or defend the cause of.

        “he championed the rights of the working class and the poor”

        Once I answered your arse-ignorant “well when did your country” bullshit you got shaken and started shifting your asinine goalposts. The US has never CHAMPIONED socialist policies, let alone even using them. Still don’t.

        It’s incredibly ironic how you think saying “you got the wrong definition” will work, and how “other commentors can see”. Yes, they can. They will be able to even check the definition (which I’ve linked btw, but you ofc haven’t, as your definition of the word is made up) and see that “champion” doesn’t exactly mean what you pretend it does. :)

        https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/champion

        https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/champion

        Even if you forgo the most used definitions, and try to find a niche one that’s even remotely similar to how you’re using it…? Nah. The closest ones still will have at least “enthusiastic” in them. The way you use it to say “America has been championing socialist policy for 100 years” is incorrect.

        America has been actively suppressing socialist policies, socialist movements and even socialist countries. These are facts.

        So I don’t know what “English” you’re using, but here in the real world “champion” doesn’t mean “actively fighting against”.

        “Mr. Fin”

        See you can’t even write Finn, which is the demonym for a Finnish person. You use the noun which means a literal fin. Like those things fish have. :D

        “championing socialist policy”

        If it wasn’t so worrying that people like you exist, it’d be kinda hilarious.