• LinkOpensChest.wav@lemmy.one
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    Because most of us dislike violence, even when it’s necessary and justified.

    Meanwhile, the rich have no problem using violence against us to protect their hoarded wealth or if they can profit from it in the slightest.

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      It sounds like we need to crowdfund the creation of a Private Military Company. We’ll need a good name for it.

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        Why not crowd fund your own lobbyist and think tank. Do what the rich do.

        Think tanks create a strategy. They suggest/create bills in your interest. They tell you what politicians to target. Think tanks are filled with statistician and lawyers who build portfolios for how to accomplish what you want. Its polls and research and statistics that show why your goal is good.

        Hand the package to lobbyist who target those politician and start pushing change the way it is supposed to occur. Keep your issue in front of the politician. Show them through your research that if they pass and fight for (x) that they will stay in power or gain popularity and it will benefit the country.

        Or call them Nazis and throw food at works of art. Not sure the best route.

        Its crazy to me people think they can more easily convince people to burn their work days up protesting in streets than just donating $50 to the fight

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          Where do we donate that $50 right now?

          I think that’s part of the problem too. No one knows an effective method to follow through with, or if they do find one it’s more often than not, not the same one “I” chose.

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          The ENTIRE SELLING POINT of Citizens United was that “unions can spend as much money as corporations so it’s a fair system!”

          It is NOT a far system; unions can NOT compete; and arguing for fighting corruption with equal corruption is insane.

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              It involves giving money to politicians to get what you want. McConnell’s motivation for rejecting McCain-Feingold in favor of Citizens United was because the tobacco lobby was gonna dump shitloads of money in his lap. John McCain called him out on it in the floor of Congress.

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                That is a bribe. That isn’t what lobbying is exclusively. Lobbying is bringing your issue to politician to influence them to fight for you. Corrupt lobbyist will bribe to influence the politician. But you’re mixing up a subset of what it is with the whole. Lobbying is what groups fighting for abortion rights and civil action do every day. Tobacco lobbyist or your local wealthy family greasing wheels should dismay you from participating in it.

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                  Yes, it IS a bribe…that is corruption. That is the subject of the conversation, which is why CU has to be abolished and lobbyist donations made an imprisonable offense.

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                    No, a bribe is an illegal form of lobbying. It is not lobbying.

                    If you can’t agree, I can give you examples of lobbying that is not bribery. and if you can’t understanding that then you’re not reasonable and just a time vampire

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      People need to remember that the Western culture rewards people with mental illness. Ultra wealthy are sociopaths to the core. This is why they can have no empathy for people. We all were scratching our heads how the Studio Heads in Hollywood couldn’t wrap their heads around fair treatment of their worker’s.

      These people aren’t evil, they are inherently broken. Normal people don’t aspire to do whatever it takes to trampled over others for gains.

      We need to stop rewarding the mentally ill with more money and instead put them in psychiatric wards.

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      They do as well, the difference being they have enough money too disassociate themselves from their own actions and have someone else deal with the mental, social and financial repercussions.

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      The whole “eat the rich” thing is pretty offensive to survivors of the Cultural Revolution, where there are several actual examples of political torture-cannibalism documented by the CCP. Though, in this case, the “rich” were just teachers and lawyers and other people deemed uppity.