• MrSulu@lemmy.ml
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    14 hours ago

    I thin the wider European populations are already in no doubt. Politics can be very slow.

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      53 minutes ago

      Not just are politics slow, but it’s difficult getting governments aligned enough to:

      1. see the danger (some right wing governments may be more reluctant)
      2. agree that publicly acknowledging the danger is the best way to go
      3. actually do the thing
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    21 hours ago

    Total power move doing it after the social media accounts thing, and not after the USA threatened war with them.

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    Ever since the coup before the start of the war in Ukraine, European leaders should have understood that America doesn’t care where the battlefield is as long as there is one, and Europe is just as valid as Iraq and Somalia. 🤷

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    1 day ago

    Canada and Denmark have been ruthlessly fighting over a piece of land for decades with whiskey and good cheer! The world could learn from this.

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    They would be wise to caveat the security risk being only when Republicans are in power as it currently stands.

    This is much of Putin’s plan to fracture long held western alliances. He sees these headlines and sees his return on investment.

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      5 hours ago

      The whole “it’s Putin” is a red herring. It’s the heritage foundation and the rest of the usanian kleptocrats that designed this status quo, it may be convenient to Putin but you can be sure as shit that the US’ problem is homegrown. One doesn’t have to travel too much in time to see the same problem marching the streets of NY.

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        Did you read Putin’s own essay on his imperial fantasies? The Foundations of geopolitics; Surkov theater? Let’s not pull the Glenn Greenwald blind-eye RussiaGate nonsense and pretend that russia is innocent in all this. There is an absurd amount of evidence that this is the exact goal of Putin for many, many years — particularly the fragmentation of NATO, and why he was hinging on Trump’s reelection ideally to invade Ukraine in the first place. The one piece of puzzle that luckily failed and likely led to Ukraine being able to mount an effective defense against his main invasion.

        Moreover it has also been very obvious that the Republican administration, and that includes think-tanks like Heritage, have been infiltrated. There’s a reason Trump is Agent Krasnov. There’s a reason former Trump officials were literally imprisoned before they were pardoned for essentially spying on behalf of russia. There is a reason Putin spent a lot of time and resources seeking Trump’s winning every election. There is a reason Trump is picking fights with Denmark over Greenland and right out of the gate picked a fight with our closest ally both literally and figuratively, Canada. There is no better explanation than to divide and fracture the west and to give Putin his return on his investment.

        You can even look to Hungary (and again the obsession with right-wing domestic media interest) as a proving-ground for Putin.

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          Yes, let’s ignore the US influence by funding all of these right wing media outlets, or Bannon’s funding/genesis of neonazi parties throughout the EU. Or meta/Facebook’s, Googles and Apple’s convenient contribution to the massive shift in the overton window. Russia did plenty, but the lion’s share of the responsibility is with the US people and kleptocrats.

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            It’s like The Office meme; “They’re the same picture.”

            Also, more importantly, what do Meta, Google, and Apple have to do with picking tariff wars with Canada and fighting over Greenland with Denmark? Like I’m all for shitting on corporations and their pathological pursuit of profit, but I’m not yet seeing the connection.

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      13 hours ago

      It’s not Denmark’s burden to keep track of whether or not America is on or off it’s meds.

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        Never said it was. I said it would be wise for them to do so and ultimately in their own interest to do so, though.