i cant blame him. coming of age in trumps america would put anyone with empathy off. hes applying for visas now and i suspect his australian native girlfriend will soon be ‘fiance’.
any tips? warnings? my only concern is the real possibility of never seeing him again.
As someone who moved from the UK to Aus 20 years ago - it’s a great move for your son. It’s has a lot in common with the US but is better than most western countries in almost every way. Aus is a great place to live, incredibly safe and a great lifestyle. Cost of living is currently high and it’s difficult to afford housing, but that seems to be common amongst most western economies anyway.
Once your son is settled, I strongly suggest visiting so you can see for yourself. Also, he’ll be proud to show off his new country to you. None of my family has visited me in Aus, which is disappointing although it is a long trek admittedly.
this is great to hear, and makes me feel a bit better. thank you!
i would love to go with him. logistically difficult… maybe someday!
Just seen from your replies that your son is headed to Wollongong and you were concerned about critters. I’m half hour north of Wollongong - it’s beautiful and a great area to live. It’s also more affordable than Sydney.
The chance of meeting nasty critters is not zero, but there are plenty of reasons it’s not common, and chances are even lower if you follow sensible precautions. In my 20 years here, I haven’t seen any snakes or dangerous spiders in suburban areas like Wollongong - only in less built up areas. Snakes are around but wisely keep out of humans’ way if they can. Spiders: I’ve seen one redback and no funnel webs. Sharks, various poisonous fish, octopi, jellyfish, etc are all out there, but again low chance and following well-publicised precautions reduces the odds further.
Hope your son enjoys his new life :)
Hey guys we sure we want yanks?
Some of the nicest people I’ve met were Americans who rejected their country and moved to aus. Especially new Yorkers.
Haven’t met too many who’ve moved permanently. Met a lot of yank students tho and they tend to be a 50/50.
Americans seem better outside America, YMMV
It is gonna be lowering the IQ of both countries…
I’ve lived here in Aus all my life. It’s got it’s problems sure, but it’s relatively safe and the people here are alright. I can’t say anything from the perspective of a parent, but I think just keep in touch how you can, and see how it goes.
It’s hard to let them go, but they have to live their own life, and you hopefully did the best you could to give them the tools they will need to succeed. Look at it this way, making such a move early in life lets them sample what else is out there, and no reason they can’t either come back or move on to something else entirely, now armed with two different culture experiences. So much better than being trapped in one place or maybe worse, settling for that, and not see other places at all.
I guess the real question is why is he making the choice. Current conditions in the US? Her? A bit of both? Or maybe he’s gotten a sample of AU and likes what he saw. As long as it’s a good reason(s), and they all are, then why not?
hes spent most of his adolescence interacting online with a group from australia… ostensibly its where his friends are. he has flown out ans spent some time on-site, so he knows what hes gettin in to.
a friend of mine put it best, ‘that cake is baked! all you can do is support it!’
Drop-bears are probably the biggest risk he’ll have to deal with. Tell him to be careful walking under any tree as you never know when they’ll attack.
any tips? warnings?
For your kid? Or for you?
If you’re ok sharing it with us, it would help to know what city/area they’re moving from and moving to, or even if it’s city vs suburbs vs rural. Even something as simple as “footy” could mean three different types of football depending on what state they’re in (and none of them are gridiron).
If you’re not from somewhere with many spiders, might be good for your champ to quickly learn the most common ones here and whether to run from them or keep them around to eat annoying flies. Plenty are harmless to humans.
And if you’re not from somewhere with ocean beaches, learn basics (how to stay afloat, riptides, basic beach safety like swimming between flags) and sun safety (“slip, slop, slap”).
great info! dangerous critters were my first thought
goin to wallengong? hes coming from the east coast, right on the coast… but such an [inside] nerd. id be surprised if hes touched the ocean more than a few times despite living a few blocks from it.
I went to Wollongong once. Had lunch at a place called An Chut Chut. Incredible food.
Sorry I can’t tell you more,.other then it’s a very pretty area. Beaches, hiking,.train to Sydney if needed.
I lived in Wollongong for my Uni days and somewhat beyond. Dangerous critters are unlikely. Boredom is a possibility. It’s not a slow country town but it certainly isn’t a City either. BIG bands don’t play there, indie hits do. A car isn’t necessary, depending of course on his type of work. You can commute to Sydney by train but it’s brutal. Not sure from your ‘native’ wording if his beloved is just Australian or of Indigenous heritage. There are some volatile sociopolitical issues with the latter. Wollongong is an old Steel town, it leans Left and Union, but is far from perfect.
Not sure from your ‘native’ wording if his beloved is just Australian or of Indigenous heritage.
ha, ive not met her or seen images…so im not sure! i just meant ‘from australia’, but knowing my kid her heritage could go either way
My.apologies :(
Be careful of the summer sun.
The sun isn’t always a fixed distance from earth. It’s closest in January, which is winter in America but in Australia that’s summer. So they should be ready for hot summers with a high risk of skin cancer.
There’s probably more to worry about in the tropics (invasive species like kane toads and fire ants especially) but I don’t live in the tropics so I’ll leave that to someone else.
The sun isn’t always a fixed distance from earth. It’s closest in January
Forgive me if I’m just missing a joke, but it’s not about the distance, it’s about the angle. In the summer the angle means the days are longer, and sunlight travels through less atmosphere (and is therefore less attenuated) before it reaches you and gives you sunburn.
No, it’s not the angle. The sun’s orbit isn’t exactly symetrical, it’s a bit lopsided. In January the sun is about 5% closer to earth.
In the Northern hemisphere this is during winter, so it’s the best of both worlds. In Australia though it’s the reverse. We get extra dim winters and extra bright summers.
Ah, thank you for the clarification! I hadn’t realised that the eccentricity of Earth’s orbit made an appreciable difference, but apparently yeah, especially at the equator: https://journals.plos.org/climate/article?id=10.1371%2Fjournal.pclm.0000436
