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  • Tbh I would be amazed if anyone in the government knows that Lemmy exists.

    It would be unwise to base any sort of response on this assumption. Section 13 of the legislation is pretty clear:

    (1) For the purposes of this Act, age‑restricted social media platform means:

    (a) an electronic service that satisfies the following conditions:

    (i) the sole purpose, or a significant purpose, of the service is to enable online social interaction between 2 or more end‑users;
    (ii) the service allows end‑users to link to, or interact with, some or all of the other end‑users;
    (iii) the service allows end‑users to post material on the service;
    (iv) such other conditions (if any) as are set out in the legislative rules; or

    (b) an electronic service specified in the legislative rules;

    I’ll cover these “legislative rules” in a sec.

    Most of the lists of affected sites you see flying all around the place are misleading, because they’re being used by the media to get engagement rather than helping people to understand the actual law. In short: every site that meets section 13(1a) above is bound by the law. Which includes aussie.zone.

    Services that eSafety considers will not be age-restricted social media platforms

    These exception lists are important. For reasons, the government has included a provision in the legislation to exclude sites from section 13(1a). There are a whole bunch of provisions in the overall legislation that hang on the magic words “legislative rules”. There are in fact 24 references to legislative rules in the legislation. If you read the thing all the way to section 240 (yes that’s not a typo), you’ll get to this bit:

    240 Legislative rules

    (1) The Minister may, by legislative instrument, make rules (legislative rules) prescribing matters:

    (a) required or permitted by this Act to be prescribed by the legislative rules; or (b) necessary or convenient to be prescribed for carrying out or giving effect to this Act.

    In other words, the communications minister can ad-hoc declare that any site/service that meets the criteria in section 13 is exempt from this law whenever she likes.


  • We have had zero guidance from the government on what “reasonable steps” to ensure users are over 16 looks like. Frankly, I don’t think the government is ready for this law to come in. I won’t be at all surprised if we are given a new date.

    All I know is what we won’t be doing:

    1. We won’t be pulling a 4chan and totally ignoring the law.
    2. We won’t be asking for people’s ID. We are not equipped to deal with that.
    3. We won’t be introducing IP blocks from Australian IPs like some sites have done to the UK.
    4. We won’t be closing down.

    I know this isn’t really answering the question. But our stance hasn’t really changed from ‘wait and see what everyone else does to comply’. I have something of a game in mind, I’ll go that way if our hand is forced on the original date.





  • On a biological level, dogs are all the same species. There’s obviously something beyond biology in terms of classification. And humans have whatever it is: you only need to watch an NBA game or a 100m Olympic final to see this in action.

    I agree that most categories we put people into are artificial, but it’d be an error to say it’s all social.

    I also think our species superpower is not our physical makeup. Our ability to work together and use our brains is what sets us apart from the other species on the planet, and on that front the playing field is level.









  • When the comments are better than the article! 🍿🤣

    There have been questions raised recently over whether we should be tagging Betoota/Chaser/Shovel/Belltower/etc articles as [Satire] so people aren’t confused. I’m torn. I don’t want people from outside Australia seeing these articles and being misinformed (For anyone not Australian and unfamiliar with The Chaser: Julia Gillard does not endorse Donald Trump - we promise). This article is written for Australians as a bit of fun. I do however love seeing people who know nothing about the headlines/creators leap into the discussion with strong opinions.

    Australians are not a serious people. We genuinely enjoy laughing at the world and at politics in particular. Genuine discourse often comes from satirical posts. Take a look at the top ten posts in this community:

    Nearly half the posts are satirical.