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    • DarkGamer@kbin.social
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      Are you suggesting that Israel should be bound by international law to not impose collective punishment, while the state of Palestine is killing and kidnapping civilians and clearly not hindered by it? Isn’t Palestine a hostile nation? Aren’t the effects of a war typically felt by all members of a society participating in it?

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          Seriously, partisan operations tend to be war crimes. That doesn’t mean that shooting the entire village is now acceptable. You get hanged for that.

          • tryptaminev 🇵🇸 🇺🇦 🇪🇺@feddit.deOP
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            The Hamas is called a terrorist organization by Israel, most NATO countries and many others. It is the official language of the Western nations and neither Gaza nor Palestine ist recognized as a “state” by Israel or again most of NATO.

            Adding more hypocricsy to the hypocricsy doesn’t make it better as a justification.

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              Although that is true, the state of Palestine has significant international recognition.

              Terrorism is most obviously defined by attacks on civilians for political ends. Hamas, who is in charge of Gaza, just orchestrated the murder of 1000+ civilians. I’m at a loss as to how one can try to portray this as not a terrorist state. An EDM concert full of civilian youths is not a valid military target, this wasn’t collateral damage, it was an intentional attack on civilians.

              Is it any wonder NATO and Israel doesn’t want to normalize relations with them?

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          Gaza is still accessible via Egypt, supply lines can still remain open. It seems absurd to suggest Israel should be forced to aid and supply a hostile state that is currently killing their civilians. A blockade seems appropriate to me given the circumstances.

          Theoretically if Mexico invaded the US we should still keep supplying them with energy, food and water while they attack us because otherwise it’s collective punishment?

            • DarkGamer@kbin.social
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              • Food and water can still get in via the Egyptian border.
              • Funny how in this conflict one side is expected to adhere to international law while the other side totally ignores it, intentionally attacks civilians, takes hostages, launches missiles indiscriminately at civilian centers, etc.,
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                If you were to take a guess at the ratio of Palestine civilians to Israeli civilians that have been killed in the last 50 years. What would it be?

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                  I would guess that Palestinian civilian death counts are significantly higher, as most of the fighting has been done within occupied Palestinian territories, civilian uprisings happen against the IDF often there, Israel can bomb targets in Palestine freely causing collateral damage while they are protected by the Iron Dome, Hamas and other such groups are fighting a guerilla war by hiding among civilians, and you wouldn’t have brought it up were it not a huge ratio. 9:1?

                  With all the civilians they intentionally murdered the ratio is certainly moving in their favor now.

                  An eye for an eye, leaving the world blind.

              • hassanmckusick@lemmy.discothe.quest
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                Yeah Israel is expected to obey international law because it gets $3.8 billion a year in funding from the US to support their military. If Israel refuses to follow international law then the US is effectively giving that money to terrorists.

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            The Rafah border crossing is currently closed due to an Israeli air strike. Might reopen tomorrow. Might be bombed again.

          • davepleasebehave@lemmy.world
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            they Israel should divest from the region and let them sort their own stuff out. instead they meddle and remain in control.

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              They should stop occupying the foreign hostile power that is presently attacking, killing, and kidnapping their civilians with guerilla attacks? Given that Hamas refuses to negotiate or make concessions in return, that sounds like bad game theory.

              [Hamas’s charter,] article 13, “There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors.”

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                They should stop occupying the foreign

                Calling the native population foreign is certainly a take. If you are a mask off dipshit that is. And yes they should stop occupying.

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                  Calling the native population foreign is certainly a take.

                  Are you saying Palestine isn’t a state, or that Israel isn’t a state? Because if they are two states as they claim, inhabitants of one are definitely foreign to the other.

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                    Isreal is not a legitimate state. It is a colonial project occupying Palestine. The settlers are the foreigners as they have been in every other historical case of colonialism.

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        Israel as the occupying power had already been breaking international law so a bit more won’t make much difference.