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      Interestingly, the states rights debate is true, wholly.

      The north wanted to keep the right to acknowledge escaped slaves as free, and the south kept sending people up there to kidnap free men and women. They were even known to kidnap free born black people and sell them into slavery.

      The south also wanted to charge the north for this “service”.

      When people talk about states rights, remind them that the south was heavily infringing on the rights of the northern states.

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          States joining the Confederacy were required to enshrine slavery in their constitutions. They didn’t have the right to reject it. If it had anything to do with states rights at all, it was about ensuring the states didn’t have the right to abolish slavery.

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          I guess you’re one of those people who are incapable of reading between the lines.

          Or maybe you didn’t read my comment at all?

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            Eh, sorry, it seemed like you were genuinely convinced that most people were concerned about legal issues. I’ve met people who tried to make earnest arguments like that.

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        They also put it in their constitution that slavery could never be outlawed. Sounds like a really big issue for states rights

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      “Buy muh Southern Pride!”

      “What about the south are you proud of that involves the battle flag of the side that wanted to keep slavery?”

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        The flag for a nation that lasted less than 5 years. Bill Clinton’s presidency was a longer piece of Southern heritage than that.

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        I was proud of being a punker in 1988. That phase lasted longer than the Civil War.

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        Real Southern Pride is the 1st Alabama Cavalry riding with Sherman to liberate the South o7

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        I’ve lived in Minnesota my whole life. Growing up, there was some religiously homeschooled dumb ass serving in the mn national guard who said that the Virginia battle flag was heritage. The last time I talked to him, I told him that the only heritage for us involving that flag is in the MN historical society archives.

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          Damn, you found a Minnesotan who’s enough of a loser to want to give up the flag? I thought that was the one issue that united the Right and Left in that state.