• surph_ninja@lemmy.world
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    Yeah, we see this all the time with emerging tech and platforms. All of the top tech companies now were once spending cash faster than they could make it, and all the naysayers saying they’d never be profitable.

    Don’t y’all get tired of being wrong sometimes? Maybe try to learn from the past.

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      THANK YOU. I feel the exact same way, word for word, although my feelings are directed at juicero rather than openai. sick of the juicero naysayers who don’t understand

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      Don’t y’all get tired of being wrong sometimes? Maybe try to learn from the past.

      Fondly remembering all the times we were wrong. Ah, remember that one time we were totally wrong about the metaverse not being the future? Oh, oh, or the classic “cryptocurrencies are just a scam” talk we had to walk back so many times. Damn, good thing we didn’t call out WeWork for being a money sink or we’d be looking pretty fucking stupid now!

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        Crypto is actually really useful for buying drugs and other illegal products and services. People have legitimately made a lot of money as well if they weren’t falling for the stupid scams. You should see the price of BitCoin or Ethereum these days.

        Not saying it’s ethical to run a lot of these given their limited usefulness and very high costs. But saying they didn’t make people money, were all scams, or didn’t have a use is objectively wrong.

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          That’s some wildly disingenuous goal post moving when describing what was meant to be The Future of Finance™ at the time.

          Like saying yeh, AGI was a pipedream and there’s no disruption of technical professions to be seen anywhere, but you can’t deny LLMs made it way easier for bad actors to actively fuck with elections, and the people posting autogenerated youtube slop 5.000 times a day sure did make some legitimate ad money.

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            That’s some wildly disingenuous goal post moving

            check their recent post history. it’s all old school, Ayn Rand, bro you don’t even watch Bullshit?, internet libertarian takes and it’s fucking delicious, like eating a Big Mac straight from the time capsule where someone buried it

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              like eating a Big Mac straight from the time capsule where someone buried it

              there’s some kind of new reality / competition show in this. I’m thinking mixture “you can’t eat that many burgers!” challenge shit, preservation/archivist commentators, and organic chemists and good dieticians as adjudicators

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          all of actual large scale uses of crypto as it stands today are money laundering, sanctions evasion by nk, iran and russia, securities frauds and other financial crimes from hundred years ago repackaged in cyberpunk wrapper, and a couple of other ways to scam cryptobros

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      And how many failed technologies and companies were there along the way? How many movies do you watch on your LaserDisc player? Or your HDDVD player?

      This current “AI” iteration is already hitting its limits despite having access to the sum total of human history. The bubble is already bursting as companies are finding that people don’t want AI in their refrigerators any more than they want it to replace a basic search engine or making fake Facebook accounts for you to talk to like Tom from MySpace.

      OpenAI has said that they will go bankrupt if they can’t train their AI on copyrighted material for free.

      It’s largely a tech without a use case in this current form, and not every money pit turns into a success before the companies burning cash go bankrupt.

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      it’s weird you pretend to be an anti-corporate leftist but when convenient post shit like:

      All of the top tech companies now were once spending cash faster than they could make it, and all the naysayers saying they’d never be profitable.

      “the only thing I hate more than neolibs and Peter thiel is when a bunch of thiel’s friends get credibly accused of running a massive grift” haha sure

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      you may in fact want to understand how much the ZIRP years had a hand in this, and then to also look just how many of those that remain (of which there continue to be fewer and fewer) are having to engage in Creative Accounting to make it seem like everything is fine

      maybe try to learn from the past.

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          Zero interest rate period, when the taps of investor money were wide open and spraying at full volume because literally any investment promising some sort of return was a better proposition than having your assets slowly diminished by e.g. inflation in the usually safe investment vehicles.

          Or something to that effect, I am not an economist.