• Sgt_choke_n_stroke@lemmy.world
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    9 days ago

    The DNC would rather lose with a neoliberal than win with a progressive. If they want to get there shit together they have to win with the working class and ordinary people.

    They can’t be elitist centrists. They’ll lose every election if they do. The future is now old man

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      8 days ago

      If they go further left they lose every moderate or right leaning Democratic voter don’t they? Why would you want your voter base to get smaller

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        8 days ago

        So is it that leftists are too small a group to be worth making political concessions to, or are they a large enough group to have an effect on elections?

        Why do Democrats feel entitled to the support of the left when they don’t offer anything to the left?

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          8 days ago

          That’s the problem they’re both. They’re that kick you always need to keep the right wing nuts at bay. But this election the American far left became nuts too and lost their common sense. Anyways enjoy your king

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            8 days ago

            I’m not really a fan of my king, the queen before him was far more likeable.

            Pithy remarks aside, I don’t see how the far left can be blamed for Harris losing given the pretty sizable margin by which she lost. And why would leftists be motivated to vote for a party that not only doesn’t offer them anything in terms of policy, but actively courts so called ‘moderate’ Republicans?

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        8 days ago

        Hogwash. The left-right split is way less significant today than the populist-establishment split. Of all the candidates in the 2020 primary, only Bernie, the furthest left, had high approval ratings amongst Republican voters. This isn’t the 1990s.

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        7 days ago

        To attract people who took one look at this steaming pile of economic dystopia, the parties that both support it, and walked away.

        I’m not even talking about the loud ones that claimed to walk away but voted Harris out of conscience and harm reduction.

        For someone that wants to live in society and not a bunch of rugged individuals at each other’s throats for oligarch scraps, it is very difficult to look at this cesspool and have hope or engage without feeling filthy and even more hopeless.

        That could change if today’s neoliberals were supplanted by anti-corporatists messaging that it isn’t government’s job to get out of the market’s way, but to regulate and straightjacket the market economy into serving society as the lowly tool of society that an economy ought to be.

        The people demanding there be winners and losers in an embarrassingly wealthy society ought to go live in the forest with nothing but a knife to see if they win or lose. A society supports one another.