In the days after Donald Trump was elected president, the 4B feminist movement is capturing young women’s interest on social media.

In the hours following former President Donald Trump’s election victory, Google searches related to 4B — a fringe South Korean feminist movement that made a name for itself in the mid to late 2010s — surged in the United States.

  • grue@lemmy.worldEnglish
    133·
    2 months ago

    A message to my fellow guys: if you dislike this, guess what: it’s real easy to stop being the target of it. All you have to do is quit being a misogynistic, authoritarian piece of shit.

    • lightnsfw@reddthat.comEnglish
      71·
      2 months ago

      This isn’t targeted at just the shitty dudes. It’s no sex with any dudes period until they get their rights back.

      • howrar@lemmy.caEnglish
        53·
        2 months ago

        I don’t see the difference. If someone doesn’t want to have sex with you, whatever the reason may be, then you accept that decision and move on. The inability to accept that would be a form of misogyny in my books. This may not be what was meant by the comment you responded to, but I interpret as: stop being misogynistic, not because that’ll make women want to have sex with you (though it might), but because it’s not your place to unilaterally decide who should have sex with you.

        • lightnsfw@reddthat.comEnglish
          21·
          2 months ago

          I never said it was my place. I gave up on romance years ago so this movement doesn’t even affect me. Although I do agree with them in principle. The purpose of my comment was only to correct the person I responded to who was misrepresenting the scope of the protest. They said the movement was specifically targeted at misogynists and it is not. It impacts all men (or at least those seeking a romantic relationship with a woman) regardless of their attitude towards women. There’s nothing to interpret about it. Men get nothing until they get their rights back. It’s not even really about misogyny.

          • howrar@lemmy.caEnglish
            1·
            2 months ago

            To be clear, I mean “you” as in the general you, not you specifically. Didn’t mean for it to come off as an attack.

        • LustyArgonian@lemmy.worldEnglish
          12·
          2 months ago

          The inability to accept that would be a form of misogyny in my books.

          Yes and further, if you (the reader, not the person I’m commenting to) are a man who is insistent women must go have sex with these men so they dont get mad - why don’t you go have sex with them? You have holes. It might even be safer for you. Why don’t you do it instead? And why haven’t you already been doing it if you think it’s so effective? Like if we need a sexy olive branch to convert people over to our side, why don’t you do it? And if you found that weird and distasteful- forcing yourself to have sex with people you are angry at and don’t want to because they are not attractive to you - no shit. That’s how we feel, you idiot.

    • cmbabul@lemmy.worldEnglish
      4·
      2 months ago

      For real, it’s astounding(not really) how much women appreciate not being treated and viewed like they are things to be owned and controlled

    • CptEnder@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      2 months ago

      Yeah honestly as a guy I’m all for it. I absolutely do not blame women who do not want to have sex when they’re treated like 2nd class citizens who’s bodies are controlled by old, creepy men in Congress.

    • FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.worldEnglish
      22·
      2 months ago

      Respectfully, this isn’t on dudes.

      Four and eight years ago young men overwhelmingly supported Bernie Sanders, and they were ridiculed for it. Dems even made up an epithet for it: Bernie Bros.

      The perspective you’re showing in this reply is why Republicans won. You can’t make it very clear you don’t want young men to vote for you and then be surprised when they don’t.