I don’t really mind if you disagree because sadly cops will always be a part of modern society. So making them better is important to future generations
The main function of cops is to protect the bourgeois, white-supremacist, patriarchal, colonialist state. I would like to get rid of the latter, so the former needs to go.
So if and when we make that happen, and we have a society free of that stuff, do we think everything will always be perfect and free of conflict and no one will break the (hopefully much improved) laws? That seems unlikely, so we’ll need some kind of way of keeping the order, right? Will it not be the responsibility of a specific job? Will there be people with that job but we won’t call them any of the names we currently have for that general job category?
You won’t be able to recognise the so-called “justice system” or “order” in that hypothetical society, so no: that job won’t exist anymore.
Yes, harm can still be done and this future society should and will find ways to prevent and/or heal that harm. Neither of these things are the police’s job, so why should we call that hypothetical job like the old system of violence?
Even if you think that those things are done by the police: do you still call a shoe designer/manufacturer a cobbler?
The idea that people can live without some form of policing is ricidulous once you’ve seen some of the darker parts of humanity. Visit Haiti, Somalia, slums just about anywhere on the planet.
You sound like some 22 year old with a couple years of higher education, and now you think you have all the answers.
One of my first memories is my father’s domestic violence against my mother. She called the police. They laughed at her.
The one time they arrested him, no matter the physical evidence, no matter the testimony from any number of witnesses (e.g. neighbours), was when he kicked a police officer.
A bit brutal. I know it’s just a meme, but I don’t think them dying is the answer. We can be better, we can do better
I don’t really mind if you disagree because sadly cops will always be a part of modern society. So making them better is important to future generations
Fuck what you call “modern sociey” if it requires cops.
Okay, what about calling it current society? I don’t see current society being able to change this for a long long time
The main function of cops is to protect the bourgeois, white-supremacist, patriarchal, colonialist state. I would like to get rid of the latter, so the former needs to go.
So if and when we make that happen, and we have a society free of that stuff, do we think everything will always be perfect and free of conflict and no one will break the (hopefully much improved) laws? That seems unlikely, so we’ll need some kind of way of keeping the order, right? Will it not be the responsibility of a specific job? Will there be people with that job but we won’t call them any of the names we currently have for that general job category?
You won’t be able to recognise the so-called “justice system” or “order” in that hypothetical society, so no: that job won’t exist anymore.
Yes, harm can still be done and this future society should and will find ways to prevent and/or heal that harm. Neither of these things are the police’s job, so why should we call that hypothetical job like the old system of violence?
Even if you think that those things are done by the police: do you still call a shoe designer/manufacturer a cobbler?
This is also why no one takes libertarians seriously
What a wonderful imaginary society, amazing that you’ll solve all violence and crime, truly unbelievable
You must live in a very privileged bubble to think like that
Why?
The idea that people can live without some form of policing is ricidulous once you’ve seen some of the darker parts of humanity. Visit Haiti, Somalia, slums just about anywhere on the planet.
You sound like some 22 year old with a couple years of higher education, and now you think you have all the answers.
some form of policing = modern cops apparently
People don’t live. They always die. Living and dying are the same process.
You sound like a child who still believes what they told you in Paw Patrol.
So… do you know any of the history of Somalia and Haiti? How they got into that situation?
One of my first memories is my father’s domestic violence against my mother. She called the police. They laughed at her.
The one time they arrested him, no matter the physical evidence, no matter the testimony from any number of witnesses (e.g. neighbours), was when he kicked a police officer.
Fuck the police.
Is she stabbing herself?
*Dismissive wanking gesture*
This is the Trump dance i believe?
They could not be cops, in which case… They wouldn’t be cops
Yeah this thread and its commenters are acting like cops
“I dislike cops because they shoot people to solve a crisis. Anyway, let’s shoot people about this crisis.” - a lot of people, apparently
Fwiw, I agree with you.
Same, people promoting this are close minded and shortsighted
Unlike you. You are so smart and enlightened. /s
Compared to the morons here encouraging murder, yeah
Where?
“Your truths make me uncomfortable, please stop”
No, its just stupid. But no surprise to see a Lemmy.ml account here promoting this divisive crap
Cops don’t seem to understand much except when a thing is alive or dead. This is the only kind of message that will get through to all of them.
Thank you.
Imagine being so diluted that you think all cops should die.
The only good cop is a dead cop