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I have met many people from a lot of nationalities in the internet. US-Americans are a special thing in the internet, but I don’t know how it is in the land of the free itself. Probably the stupid ones keep staying on the internet, while others behave like “normal” people, but I don’t know for sure.
A majority of people lives on an other continent. They have internet as well and they also can speak english. Why assume, that they do not exist? Look, I don’t like clichés. But in far eastern Europe there was always this cliché about US-Americans, that they are ignorant as fuck. Living in western Europe today, this cliché is still present, that’s something people like to think.
And I really don’t know how to feel about that, I think there is a tendency that this cliché may apply. Not because “people are dumb hahaha”, but more how the US propaganda works. Like it makes them defaulting to USA most of the time.
I was always aware, that there is a world outside, no matter how many friends had and people I met. Even when I visited school, it was always clear, that other countries exist, they are present and they also may have other laws, morals, cultures. Let me repeat it: Other laws, different morals and culture.
On social media plattforms like Reddit and YouTube, where US Americans are not an absolute majority, it is easy to experience. I am also not talking about topics which are obviously centred around the US.
Few example:
Everything related to age is an absolute clusterfuck and you better not engage in any of suchs discussions. They can’t comprehend, that it is different somewhere, like in the most of the world. Some 13yo child murdered his mother and was then charged as an adult. Sounds stupid for me, to be honest.
But it were most of the time US-Americans who absolutely supported this decision:
- Only an adult could have so much criminal energy, so he should be threatened like one.
- He planned it and showed so much brutality, only an adult could do this.
- I hope he dies in pain
I asked if it is OK now, if this 13yo adult could vote, drink alcohol and also have sex with people 40 years older then he is. I mean he is treated like he is an adult. After that, peak mental gymnastics were applied on me and I was not liked that much. They were just angry at me. And didn’t give me an proper explanation, why this 13yo old is now an adult.
However I was blocked few days ago from commenting in a post in a subreddit, because I kept saying that being 17 doesn’t mean to be a child. There is need to differ. I know that this is legally different in other countries, but this matter won’t be resolved by insisting: “I live in the USA and in my state you are a child if you are under 18 and I don’t care" where you all live”. - I am not lying, that was something I read.
US fucking legal system is the standard for the entire world. For real, I rather receive an unsolicited dickpic, where I can at least block the person or inform mods/admins, but there is no way avoid a unsolicited legal advice, why you should sue your neighbour according to law in Florida, despite obviously living somewhere 5000km (3106 miles in freedom units) far away in a different country. I understand the intention, its a friendly one. But this happens on international social media sites. And it happens often.
Also no point in talking about prison sentences. While people which are unluckily not living in Freedomland has the tendency to understand and accept, that there are differences in each country and someone may like or dislike it, pure ignorance is striking many in US Americans. But why, even if you point out that you are from somewhere else? Because morals!
It is morally correct to do x,y and z. But not a,b and c. Why is it morally correct? Because there is an everlasting, unchangeable moral in the world which is rooted in the USA. When is this card used? Often when something is illegal in Freedomland, but legal in the majority of other countries.
Morality is not the right thing to decide if something is OK or not. In some places in the wide world it is morally wrong to be gay and Ramsan Kadyrow will make sure that this moral principle there will stay for sure. This is an other topic of course.
Its like you are desperately trying stay in denial. I thought once that probably some younger people behave that way. Being young means, that you are probably developing in a different pace then others in you age. Many things have an influence if you behave more like a child or an adult. Being very very young also means to believe into absolute things. This usually should change till adulthood. But no, older Yankees prefer to behave the same. What kind of brainwashing is USA performing on their population!? It is absolute effective.
The last thing is easily observed on Reddit. Also on Facebook and YouTube. But Reddit is full of this. They have such an fetish with pedophilia, it is absolutely an insult to vicitms and also a relativization of it. Its like they are actively searching for any clues for anything remote probably illegal by the law of a yankee state.
I indeed feel insulted, if they start calling something pedophilia, if it is indeed not. I experienced very bad things as a child and I also met other victims. But it were almost always USians on Reddit on YouTube who handled this matter with such disrespect. It always sounds more like an excuse for canalising their rage towards someone, never real care for victims of sexual abuse and violence - adult or child. Discussing that or making your point in this matter is like talking with a gorilla, which starts throwing shit at you as soon as you make a sound.
At least I rarely read something about their racist system in categorising people. Something about black, the Caucasus and Spain. But OK, this is present for a long time there and people are used to it. This doesn’t change fast.
I actually somehow accepted this stubbornness and the urge to be in denial and I just think my part. I am sure, very sure that those morons don’t represent the entire US population. I know and met people from US in a political context and they were totally normal people. But maybe they were it that way, because they are well educated communists?
I met younger and older reactionary people from Russia, Britain, Germany, Türkiye, Kazakhstan, Moldavia and Chechen. Reactionary? Yes. But even they were not really comparable with US-Americans on Reddit, Facebook or YouTube.
There is something very wrong with people in USA and I think capitalism is to blame for it. Where can I find US-Americans, where this cliché from the Soviet Union about them, don’t apply so easily? Or am I dumb and don’t see them, because the annoying ones are so annoying that it is easy to notice them?
Thank you very much if you read it all. It took a very long for me to write it all and I am proud, that I did it without DeepL!
You won’t. On lemmygrad/hexbear and adjacent related places, sure, but we “self-hating” Americans are effectively zero percent of the population. It’s safe enough to assume most Americans you encounter online will have some reactionary opinions, incredibly insane ones really, if you probe far enough.
Some of the stuff you listed, like the sick obsession with “discovering pedophiles” is generally the far right, essentially Nazis or equivalent and mostly projection by them. I’m not going to pretend pedophilia isn’t a problem in any society because it definitely is and has been throughout history, but as you alluded to the right wingers use it as a tool to simply smear those groups of people they don’t like. They call anyone who disagrees with their insane fascist policies a pedophile. They call LGBTQ people pedophiles. Someone just being gay is inherently pedophilic to them. A 35 year old guy marrying a 16 year old girl… well, that’s fine and actively encouraged by many of these types. But two gay 30 year old men have consensual sex… well that’s pedophilia. It’s “grooming” children to be gay like them one day. Why? How? Because these gay and trans people exist and that is somehow a “corrupting” force upon children. No one really explains the gap there how someone born straight suddenly has a desire to be gay because they saw two guys holding hands. But this is the current far right wing obsession in the US for sure. Everything is grooming, everyone is a pedo except the actual pedos, no they don’t count… because they’re right wingers and they want to support them.
A lot of the other stuff applies across the board though. The US has an insanely backwards view of crime, punishment, rehabilitation. Race is nearly comically engrained into society. It would be comical anyway if it didn’t determine life or death so often…
I will say on racism though that Europeans, east and west, sure have their own special flavors of it. I mean, the entire Balkans, lol. Call a Serb an Albanian and see how they respond. It’s ethnic division and such, so it’s different, but also much the same. Brits, French, and Germans are currently all working together to figure out the most efficient way to explode boats of refugees fleeing to the EU. They’re all extremely reactionary towards Arabs/Muslims in a way that Americans are towards Mexicans and South Americans.
I think a lot of times Western Europeans especially like to project onto Americans and act like they’re better when in reality our countries are nearly identical except they have better social services. That’s about it. The populations act similarly, not the same, but similarly. It would literally make me burst into laughter if a Brit or French person said Americans are racist implying their countries are not. I mean seriously they have parties, just like the US, built solely around how best to shoot migrants. So I really do not respect criticism like that from Western European people, although I’ve only had much experience dealing with Brits who are probably some of the most reactionary (maybe Germans are worse, hard to say).
But anyway, overall, many of your points are valid for large portions of the population and if you expect to find people who aren’t like that, you can, but it’s like digging for… I dunno, a diamond in a mountain of shit or something. Extremely rare. Basically non-existent.
Hexbear and Grad users are not as bad as elsewhere, but they’re still guilty of it pretty frequently.
I guess it was slightly ambiguous, but I meant it to include all Americans as having reactionary tendencies, yes even on here. Yes including me.
Euro-brainrot (a similar degenerative disorder related to Anglo-brainrot) is definitely a thing. But as a Canadian I’d have to say that there is something particularly rotten about Angloid culture and mentality (a particularly severe case of capitalist brainrot compared to the Euros, and also of course the biggest issue- settler-colonial mentality which inherently poisons every aspect of the society).
The brainrot is diminishing as the material conditions and white demographics also do- but the Angloid brainrot is far more pervasive, and destructive (even towards their own societies). And the US is the worst of the lot.
Europe (Not EU, entire Europe) is not less racist then the USA. How racism works is different and has historically developed this way in each of those places. But I still experience that people from US are believing that racism generally works like it appears there. That is normal if you don’t know about other places in the world, I am not blaming.
But ignoring it, despite being shown that it is indeed different in other places, is weird. Caucasian, Black, Something with Spain and South America plus Asia won’t help in understanding why calling Russians “orcs” is racism. It makes all sense if you talk about racism in the US. But other parts in the world? Not so much. Racism includes not just skin colour. It is far far more then that of course.
There are many ways how someone can be a racist. One is to clearly believe, that something like human races indeed exist and thinking that a group is inferior or superior. An other way is to do the same, but lying to yourselt:“I don’t hate people from North Africa, we just don’t have so much place! And also criminality is high within them, our society won’t survive it. It is not racism, this are facts. We can’t save the whole world, there is nothing to do about it.”
Later one is well present in Europe.
That’s because the quiet part — that perhaps some of the people holding the views themselves won’t or can’t admit — is that these people aren’t anywhere close to 100% cishet, and only put on a front of looking that way due to compulsive cisheteronormativity.