• Prunebutt@slrpnk.net
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    Whenever any advance is made in AI, AI critics redefine AI so its not achieved yet according to their definition.

    That stems from the fact that AI is an ill-defined term that has no actual meaning. Before Google maps became popular, any route finding algorithm utilizing A* was considered “AI”.

    And the second comment about LLMs being parrots arises from a misunderstanding of how LLMs work.

    Bullshit. These people know exactly how LLMs work.

    LLMs reproduce the form of language without any meaning being transmitted. That’s called parroting.

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        AI is a marketing buzzword. When someone claims that so-called “AGI” is close, they’re either doing marketing or falling for marketing.

        Since you didn°t address the “parroting” part, I’m assuming that you retract your point.

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      LLMs reproduce the form of language without any meaning being transmitted. That’s called parroting.

      Even if (and that’s a big if) an AGI is going to be achieved at some point, there will be people calling it parroting by that definition. That’s the Chinese room argument.

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          Me? How can I move goalposts in a single sentence? We’ve had no previous conversation… And I’m not agreeing with the previous poster either…

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            By entering the discussion, you also engaged in the previops context. The discussion uas about LLMs being parrots.

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              And the argument was if there’s meaning behind what they generate. That argument applies to AGIs too. It’s a deeply debated philosophical question. What is meaning? Is our own thought pattern deterministic, and if it is, how do we know there’s any meaning behind our own actions?

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                The burden of proof lies on the people making the claims about intelligence. “AI” pundits have supplied nothing but marketing-hype.