EDIT: So after all that, I was able to reinstall windows and download Macrium reflect + my backup. First time I tried to recover it, it failed for some reason, but the second time around I was able to restore it successfully. I’m now back where I started, thank you everyone!
I’m not done with Linux yet, but I think I’m going to try and run it in a good VM for the time being. When I’m done with classes, or when I get a separate device, I will give it another go.
Post 1: https://lemmy.ca/post/3709382
Post 2: https://lemmy.ca/post/3863438
Yesterday I could at least change the order in the BIOS to boot windows. Now I can’t even do that.
I think when reinstalling, I must have overwritten something (the EFI?). I saw some other people that had a very similar experience, and the advice was to reinstall Windows. I’m currently downloading Windows installation media on another computer and I’m going to try and reinstall windows now.
This just keeps getting worse and worse, and thank you for the help while I struggle through this.
If anyone has other tips, I’d appreciate it :)
Jesus, stop. You probably only removed the boot entry, happened to me before. Download Windows ISO, put it on a pendrive, boot into it and navigate to the terminal. Then look up a guide on how to restore the boot entry, should be just couple of simple commands and you’re done.
If you are too lazy, at least boot into Linux, mount the Windows drive and back up your stuff.
Thank you! This is completely on me for just rushing ahead and accepting the loss, but I’ll save this for if I run into this again. The only option on the recovery screen I didn’t try was the terminal.
https://woshub.com/how-to-repair-uefi-bootloader-in-windows-8/
I did find this guide, is this looking close to what you went through?
Thankfully I did backup my stuff before starting the process so that’s what I was planning on doing. Just moving the backup files onto my computer now
Honestly I just watched some Indian YouTube video, I recognize some of the commands, so it’s probably it.
That works for me, thank you again!
This happens, because the stupid windows bootloader installs itself onto the same partition as the fedora bootloader instead of making it’s own. So when you reinstall fedora, the windows bootloader is deleted. Look up how to reinstall windows bootloader
On EFI systems all bootloaders are supposed to reside on a single partition. EFI does not support multiple ‘EFI system partitions’, so operating systems have to share a single one. And this is usually not a problem if it is the one Windows choose. The problem most often is broken EFI firmware which fails to correctly handle adding and removing boot entries. Or Windows, which fails to boot if anything changes (disk order and such), even though everything is still available.
This is technically only true if you have a single disk. The EFI spec allows for a single EFI partition per disk, so you can definitely have multiple in a system. I know this, because my setup has multiple EFI partitions. Windows doesn’t like it, and it will try it’s hardest to share a single one with Linux, but if it’s on its own disk, you can set it up with its own EFI partition using the command prompt.
Then my recent research was wrong - I tried to make it work and failed. Then read somewhere it is not supported. But it can be that it is valid EFI configuration, but not supported by Windows and some firmware implementations.
I don’t think I have ever seen an EFI firmware which was not broken in one way or another.This is exactly why I put my Linux install on a separate SSD. I even physically removed the windows SSD when I installed so nothing would get merged together.
I’ve never had Windows mess up a UEFI partition worse than it was after the initial install. Microsoft may refuse to add a proper bootloader entry (defaulting to the fallback boot path) but it’ll leave Grub or any other bootloader alone unless you start messing with them.
I literally reinstalled Windows the other day and
systemd-bootwas still working, and so was Windows. This is all on a single disk.
That doesn’t matter, though. You can add a thousand bootloaders to a thousand disks. They just need to have a unique name. Windows installs itself to the UEFI “I don’t know what else to try, let’s boot this instead” bootloader which is rather silly, but Grub and systemd-boot don’t. They’ll just create their own little partition to chill out in.
If the entry was removed from the BIOS, the UEFI config probably got lost. There’s a good chance the bootloader is still installed on the disk but not listed as a notable option in the UEFI firmware variables.
You can fix this with efibootmgr or its Windows equivalent. I don’t know the exact commands, but I would go for the Windows version because it also sets a bunch of other environment variables when setting up the boot parameters.
Getting rid of Windows sounds like a feature to me
Undercover Windows agent terrorizing linux newcomers /s
To me it looks like Fedora is trying to guide you to make better file choices. \s
Are you booting in legacy BIOS or UEFI mode?
Legacy only supports one bootloader per drive, which should be grub. If you’re in legacy mode, windows was probably thrown out of there so it doesn’t show up anymore. Grub can still call the windows bootloader if you configure it accordingly.
The arch wiki page on grub has a section explaining the details.
My windows will only boot on legacy, and Mt Fedora will only boot on UEFI. This means I have to change bios settings to go from one OS to the other. Not ideal, but whatever.
Classic windows moment, you have to reinstall it to change that.
Yup. Just don’t feel like dealing with it when I seldom go into Windows anyway. If I must use Windows, I usually use my work laptop.
Many years ago I would reinstall everything if I break something. Today I don’t see how to break things to a point that just resin stalling would be a solution. Probably by booting a live you can fix whatever you broke.
