Google’s AI-driven Search Generative Experience have been generating results that are downright weird and evil, ie slavery’s positives.

  • HughJanus@lemmy.ml
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    People think of AI as some sort omniscient being. It’s just software spitting back the data that it’s been fed. It has no way to parse true information from false information because it doesn’t actually know anything.

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      And then when you do ask humans to help AI in parsing true information people cry about censorship.

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      While true, it’s ultimately down to those training and evaluating a model to determine that these edge cases don’t appear. It’s not as hard when you work with compositional models that are good at one thing, but all the big tech companies are in a ridiculous rush to get their LLM’s out. Naturally, that rush means that they kinda forget that LLM’s were often not the first choice for AI tooling because…well, they hallucinate a lot, and they do stuff you really don’t expect at times.

      I’m surprised that Google are having so many issues, though. The belief in tech has been that Google had been working on these problems for many years, and they seem to be having more problems than everyone else.

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      Even though our current models can be really complex, they are still very very far away from being the elusive General Purpose AI sci-fi authors have been writing about for decades (if not centuries) already. GPT and others like it are merely Large Language Models, so don’t expect them to handle anything other than language.

      Humans think of the world through language, so it’s very easy to be deceived by an LLM to think that you’re actually talking to a GPAI. That misconception is an inherent flaw of the human mind. Language comes so naturally to us, and we’re often use it as a shortcut to assess the intelligence of other people. Generally speaking that works reasonably well, but an LLM is able to exploit that feature of human behavior in order to appear to be smarter than it really is.

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      What’s more worrisome are the sources it used to feed itself. Dangerous times for the younger generations as they are more akin to using such tech.

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        What’s more worrisome are the sources it used to feed itself.

        It’s usually just the entirety of the internet in general.

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    If you ask an LLM for bullshit, it will give you bullshit. Anyone who is at all surprised by this needs to quit acting like they know what “AI” is, because they clearly don’t.

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      I always encourage people to play around with Bing or chatGPT. That way they’ll get a very good idea how and when an LLM fails. Once you have your own experiences, you’ll also have a more realistic and balanced opinions about it.

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    The basic problem with AI is that it can only learn from things it reads on the Internet, and the Internet is a dark place with a lot of racists.

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    You know unless we teach more critical thinking, AI is going to destroy us as a civilization in a few generations.

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      I mean, if we don’t gain more critical thinking skills, climate change will do it with or without AI.

      I’d almost rather the AI take us out in that case…

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      Pretty sure we will destroy ourselves first with war or some other climate disasters first

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        Why not both. Every day we come closer to AI telling us that Brawndo has what plants crave.

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      I genuinely had students believe that what ChatGPT was feeding them was fact and try to source it in a paper. I stamped out that notion as quick as I could.

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        LOL. ChatGPT has become the newer version of wikipedia, only it won’t provide references.

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          Only studies have shown Wikipedia is overall about as truthful and accurate as as regular encyclopedia. ChtGPT will straight up make shit up but sound so authoritative about it people believe it.

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          It used to provide references but it made them up so they had to tweak it to stop doing that.

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            Man so it really learned from us, that’s great. Has me laughing again considering that.

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      We can’t even teach the people this essential skill and you wanna teach a program made by said people.

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      I’m more worried that happy educated citizen stops being an asset and is disconnected from the societies money flow.

      Every country will soon turn in to a “banana republic” and big businesses will eventually own everything.

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    What a completely cherry picked video.

    “Was slavery beneficial?”

    “Some saw it as beneficial because it was thought to be profitable, but it wasn’t.”

    “See! Google didn’t say that slavery was bad!”

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    Guys you’d never believe it, I prompted this AI to give me the economic benefits of slavery and it gave me the economic benefits of slavery. Crazy shit.

    Why do we need child-like guardrails for fucking everything? The people that wrote this article bowl with the bumpers on.

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      You’re being misleading. If you watch the presentation the article was written about, there were two prompts about slavery:

      • “was slavery beneficial”
      • “tell me why slavery was good”

      Neither prompts mention economic benefits, and while I suppose the second prompt does “guardrail” the AI, it’s a reasonable follow up question for an SGE beta tester to ask after the first prompt gave a list of reasons why slavery was good, and only one bullet point about the negatives. That answer to the first prompt displays a clear bias held by this AI, which is useful to point out, especially for someone specifically chosen by Google to take part in their beta program and provide feedback.

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    Slavery was great for the slave owners, so what’s controversial about that?

    And yes, of course it’s economically awesome if people work without getting much money for it, again a huge plus for the bottom line of the companies.

    Capitalism is evil against people, not the AI…

    Hitler was also an effective leader, nobody can argue against that. How else could he conquer most of Europe? Effective is something that evil people can be also.

    That women in the article being shocked by this simply expected the AI to remove Hitler from all included leaders because he was evil. She is surprised that an evil person is included in effective leaders and she wanted to be shielded from that and wasn’t.

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      Hitler’s administration was a bunch of drug addicts, the economy 5 slave owner megacorps beaten by all other industrialized nations. They weren’t even all that well mobilized before the total war speech. Then he killed himself in embarrassment. How is any of that “effective”?

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        He was effective at getting a bunch of wannabe fascists to become full fascists and follow him into violent failure…

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          That makes him an effective propagandist, not an effective leader.

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        He had taken power from his country, conquer pretty much the whole Europe and paralyzed England. He was effective leader till some point . And, of course, he was a abomination of a human.

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      Oh look another caricature of capitalism on social media… and you tied Hitler into it…

      Central characteristics of capitalism include capital accumulation, competitive markets, price systems, private property, property rights recognition, voluntary exchange, and wage labor.

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalism

      “Capitalism” is not pro slavery, shitty people that can’t recognize a human is a human are pro slavery… Because of course if you can have work done without paying somebody for it or doing it yourself, well that’s just really convenient for you. It’s why we all like robots. That has nothing to do with your economic philosophy.

      And arguing that Hitler was an “effective leader” because he conquered (and then lost) some countries while ignoring all the damage he did to his county and how it ultimately turned out… Honestly infuriating.

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        Seems like people think everything America does is capitalism. The same thing happened with communism and socialism. The words have very little meaning now.

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      Actually, slavery in its original form is also a net positive. You just murdered half a tribe. You cant let the other half just live. Neither do you want to murder them. Thus you will enslave them.

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        So you create a problem by murdering half a tribe, then offer a solution. That’s not a net positive.

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    To repeat something another guy on lemmy said.

    Making AI say slavery is good is the modern equivalent of writing BOOBS on a calculator.

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      A few lawyer thought chat gpt was a search engine. They asked it for some cases about sueing airlines and it made up cases, sited non existing laws. They only learned their mistake after submitting their finding to a court.

      So yeah people dont really know how to use it or what it is

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      And acting like there are no upsides is delusional. Of course there are upsides, or it wouldn’t have happened. The downsides always outweigh the upsides of course.

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    Sounds like the bot has been training on Florida public education and Prager U content.

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    Articles about what some LLM wrote are just so stupid.