While for many it’s obvious how serious Trump’s declining mental capacity has become, for too many Americans that reality has not yet broken through. The media continues to treat Trump like a normal candidate; many Americans have baked Trump’s bizarre behavior into their perceptions of him; and many take right-wing lies about Joe Biden’s mental fitness at face value.

Given this, we wanted to hear from John Gartner, founder of Duty To Warn, a group of mental health professionals who have been raising the alarm about Trump’s increasingly sociopathic behavior since 2017. Now in 2024, Gartner has an even more dire warning about Trump: that there are increasing signs the former president is heading fast down the road toward dementia.

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    I think the most remarkable thing about this is how both sides are so unable to see that their own guy is clearly experiencing extreme mental collapse. Believe it or not, it is possible for two people to simultaneously be losing their shit. The cognitive dissonance is so thick that it seems like nobody on either side can see their own hand when it’s an inch in front of their noses.

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      Both sides bullshit. Biden gave an hour speech that was well received. Trump slurs his rehashed rhetoric. But sure, same thing.

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        Look, if I had to pick a team, I’d be on team blue, but by no stretch of the imagination is Biden an exemplar of mental acuity. It isn’t exactly hard to find countless examples of him tripping all over himself. Trust me, I wish there was a chance that we were not about to put someone who should probably be in assisted living into office. If you take a step back for a second and look at him with an open mind, its not hard to see. Just as an experiment, watch some videos of him and pretend like it’s trump saying that stuff. If you can do that, then you will get a glimpse of what any rational person has been seeing for quite some time.

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          Completely reasonable arguments and not at all “both sides bullshit”…

          Both sides bullshit is when someone is using that argument to imply that “both are bad so it doesn’t matter” or “x is bad so y isn’t such a bad choice”

          You said none of that and just commented, very reasonably, that both of these guys are too fucking old to run a country. Idk why Lemmies seem to see everything in black and white… I’ll vote blue as well, but not because I think Biden is an excellent choice.

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            His first comment literally says “both sides” and then basically says they’re equivalent.

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              I said I would choose the blue team if I had to choose. I don’t do the whole thing where I avoid magic phrases. I just speak my mind. If you are being honest, would you say that you find Biden, in his current state, to be an inspirational leader?

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                He was probably about my fifth choice in the 2020 primaries, but I also realize he was never going to get primaried as the incumbent.

                I’ve also seen enough people on here trying to argue dumb ass things like trump being better for Palestine that when someone shows up in an article about Trump’s mental decline saying “hey everyone, Biden sucks too” for no particular reason, I get a little suspicious about their motivations.

                Edit: wrong year

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                  Anyone who thinks the red team is more pro-palestine than the blue team just hasn’t paid any attention to us politics before. The red team is inherently anti-darkskin, especially when they are going up against “god’s chosen ones.”

                  It is absolutely perfectly reasonable to complain that there are no options that are likely to not have dementia. That’s a valid complaint that rational people can make. I always just assume that people who get so upset about that complaint have just been scared and pressured out of being able to share honest observations because they think it means they are some sort of traitor. Instead, they put on performance about how delicious the taste of puke-on-rye is.

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        The President of the United States shouldn’t be praised because there was a speech that can be found that they were able to make it through. The bar should be higher than that. It used to be that people heard presidential speeches and they said “I’m inspired! That was moving!” Not just, “Hey! I found a speech where he made it to the end without embarrassing himself!”. The bar has moved, it’s no longer a pull-up bar, it’s a limbo bar.

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      The two major parties should try to find candidates below 75 years of age. These two are the very best politicians available in a country of over 330 million people?

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        Exactly. How is this a revolutionary concept that neither side seems to be able to understand?

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        Believe it or not, it is perfectly reasonable to point out that when the president forgets that Mexico isn’t next to Gaza, it is a sign that he’s not exactly at the prime of his life. Not everything is a big conspiracy. Sometimes, it’s just normal people pointing out that it sucks that this is the best the dems could find. Can we please just try to be able to speak honestly without feeling like we are terrible team members if we say what we think? Honest discourse is your friend, no matter which side you are on.