• MiltownClowns@lemmy.world
    758·
    8 个月前

    Bruce Wayne is just another billionaire who likes to get dressed up in leather and beat the underprivileged of gotham. The problem is guns are too quick. He needs to teach these people the lesson that it’s wrong to be poor. And he needs to teach that lesson through pain and permanent physical disfigurement. All whilst bruce’s erection slowly wears its way through his cod piece, beating after beating, suit spunk after suit spunk.

    • deweydecibel@lemmy.worldEnglish
      303·
      8 个月前

      Do people genuinely think this about Bruce Wayne or just fucking around? I honestly can’t tell anymore.

      Alan Moore’s brand of nihilist contrarianism has really done a number on the discussion.

      • Moneo@lemmy.world
        9·
        8 个月前

        I think people are questioning the ethics of Batman more these days given how discussions around poverty and crime has changed. Given how crime is more often than not a result of poverty and a lack of social safety net than greed or lack of morals, the ethics of Batman bypassing the justice system1 and beating the shit out of henchman comes into question.

        My exposure to this line of thinking was FD Signifier’s video on edge lords, but I haven’t seen other people talk about it until now.

        1. the justice system also fails these people but we’ll ignore that for the sake of argument

        • Zyrxil@lemmy.world
          8·
          8 个月前

          In early depictions of Batman, there were times in which he freely killed criminals and times where he was an officially deputized state agent. In contrast, most depictions since at least the late 80s and 90s were much more progressive, with Bruce Wayne being the biggest philanthropist in Gotham, helping to provide low cost housing and healthcare, as well as funding criminal rehabilitation and direct job placement for ex-cons with Wayne Industries. Writers were aware of the other aspects of justice that Batman needed to embody long before it was trendy on the internet to edgily portray Batman as a billionaire who enjoys beating people up for fun.

      • Excrubulent@slrpnk.netEnglish
        2·
        8 个月前

        Plenty of people will say that. This is a really good dismantling of the whole concept by thoughtslime, where he basically points out how contradictory and malleable the entire character is, and he can be written as an authoritarian but usually isnt, plus some other stuff I don’t remember: https://youtu.be/73M2sq9zK-I?si=GoJ4paPDgqBskdos

        Also it’s unlisted because it’s in the raft of videos thoughtslime has decided are outdated, bad, or have problematic elements. Idk what it is about this video that got it on the list, but I feel it’s important to mention.

    • criticon@lemmy.ca
      173·
      8 个月前

      He also probably holds a large stake in Arkham. Every criminal he sends is money the city puts into his deep pockets

          • Honytawk@lemmy.zip
            1·
            8 个月前

            Non-cannon doesn’t exist in the DC multiverse.

            Since every iteration is just a different universe. All of them are cannon.

            Yes, even the Batnippels one.

  • Sotuanduso@lemm.eeEnglish
    411·
    8 个月前

    He doesn’t use guns because he specifically doesn’t like them. If it were just about killing, he’d use nonlethal bullets. The no killing rule is a separate but related phenomenon.

    As for explosives, he generally only uses flash bangs, but when he’s fighting someone who can clearly take it (like Superman or Darkseid) or a robot that it’s okay to kill, then he uses more lethal bombs.

    • Daft_ish@lemmy.worldOP
      1·
      8 个月前

      You address it in the first part of your comment but if batman has no problem using lethal bombs than why not a gun? That is where I am at.

      It has to be he specifically doesn’t like guns. Other commentors say he doesn’t like guns because his parents were shot. Which is fine but kinda misses the point imo. It’s like he heard someone say, “guns don’t kill people, people kill people.” Then was like nuh-uh but never moved that logic to, I dont know, incendiary weapons. Anyway, I’m way out in the weeds here.

      The man threw a batarang into the barrel of a gun. Surely he could master non-lethal force with a hand gun or something.

      A batman that uses guns is not as entertaining. I can agree on that much.

      • Sotuanduso@lemm.eeEnglish
        5·
        8 个月前

        Yeah, he specifically doesn’t like guns, and it’s because his parents were shot. Other weapons are fine. Even a grappling gun is fine. A gun that shoots bullets is not fine because it reminds him of how his parents died.

  • its_prolly_fine@sh.itjust.works
    30·
    8 个月前

    It’s more of a moral and emotional reason. His parents were killed with a gun. Guns are designed to kill. So he’s not a fan of guns.

  • boredtortoise@lemm.ee
    301·
    8 个月前

    There’s more fear in getting mutilated by Batman than getting headshotted from the shadows

  • ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de
    16·
    8 个月前

    He has deep seeded trauma about guns that make him think about himself as the same type of murderer that killed his parents, whenever he thinks about using a gun.

  • Mr_Blott@lemmy.world
    2410·
    8 个月前

    Well, everyone in modern society knows that only hunters, farmers and shit-scared fuckin cowards own guns so maybe batman is European?

  • deweydecibel@lemmy.worldEnglish
    131·
    8 个月前

    What incarnation are you talking about where he throws “explosives” out left and right? Not every explosive is lethal. A smoke bomb is technically an explosive.