Well, she was raped, so I don’t really know what her age has to do with it here (other than to make it maybe subjectively more bad than just regular old adult-on-adult rape, but I digress).
First, whoever raped her belongs in that special level of Hell reserved for rapists, child molesters and Justin Beiber fans. I’ve said this before, there should always be an exemption for rape, incest and medical necessity. This is one area that I disagree with other fellow conservatives. It’s a fucking disgrace that there aren’t exceptions.
Ah, so then you understand that by definition, only medical doctors are able to decide what is and isn’t a medical necessity, and therefore how unreasonable it is that anyone else besides doctor and patient would think they should have a say in the matter? Great, glad we got that settled!
Exactly. And since a medical doctor is the one who is qualified to determine what would risk a pregnant woman’s life, none of us could possibly have a say in the matter because we’re not qualified to do so.
I’m very happy to be able to find some common ground with a conservative on this fine day. I also do not listen to Justin Bieber songs. Let’s keep searching for more common ground and unite our feuding peoples. We can do this!
What’s the line between medical necessity and medical advisability? When do things become a necessity? Take something like the water breaking at 17 weeks. Is an abortion an immediate medical necessity even though the woman’s life isn’t yet in immediate danger?
What happens to doctors when courts decide that they fell on the wrong side of that line?
The problem with things like this is that drawing the line badly or fuzzily and medical mistakes lead to women dying. Abortion was legalized in Ireland after one mistake like that, when doctors didn’t want to violate the ill-specified law and erred on the side of intervening too late. The mother died.
Well, she was raped, so I don’t really know what her age has to do with it here (other than to make it maybe subjectively more bad than just regular old adult-on-adult rape, but I digress).
First, whoever raped her belongs in that special level of Hell reserved for rapists, child molesters and Justin Beiber fans. I’ve said this before, there should always be an exemption for rape, incest and medical necessity. This is one area that I disagree with other fellow conservatives. It’s a fucking disgrace that there aren’t exceptions.
A Beiber hate joke? What are you, twelve?
Nope, my son is 12.
Ah, so then you understand that by definition, only medical doctors are able to decide what is and isn’t a medical necessity, and therefore how unreasonable it is that anyone else besides doctor and patient would think they should have a say in the matter? Great, glad we got that settled!
By medical necessity, I mean if the mothers life is in danger or the child is not going to make it.
Exactly. And since a medical doctor is the one who is qualified to determine what would risk a pregnant woman’s life, none of us could possibly have a say in the matter because we’re not qualified to do so.
I’m very happy to be able to find some common ground with a conservative on this fine day. I also do not listen to Justin Bieber songs. Let’s keep searching for more common ground and unite our feuding peoples. We can do this!
How much danger? How immediate?
What’s the line between medical necessity and medical advisability? When do things become a necessity? Take something like the water breaking at 17 weeks. Is an abortion an immediate medical necessity even though the woman’s life isn’t yet in immediate danger?
What happens to doctors when courts decide that they fell on the wrong side of that line?
The problem with things like this is that drawing the line badly or fuzzily and medical mistakes lead to women dying. Abortion was legalized in Ireland after one mistake like that, when doctors didn’t want to violate the ill-specified law and erred on the side of intervening too late. The mother died.