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    Chrome: We’re going to make adblocking on mobile even harder.

    Firefox: We’re gonna make adblocking on mobile as easy as its ever been.

    Gee, wonder which one I’m gonna be using after this.

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    Alright so what’s the biggest threat that the Open Web is facing right now? Web Enviroment Integrity.

    What’s the biggest browser engine that’s not Chromium? Gecko. (Firefox)

    Which group of people use Chrome most? Average Joes.

    What attracts Average Joes? Shiny new features.

    What is this post about? Shiny new features.

    I think this is a perfect opportunity to make people switch to Firefox.

    Though an antitrust lawsuit would probably be quicker.

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    They already were the first? I still remember when I upgraded Firefox on my phone and all of the extensions were gone. It’s nice that they’re finally bringing them back after all these years, but it’s just a return to the way things used to be.

    EDIT: Headline here was changed from the original article, which doesn’t claim “first”, just “only”.

    • They rewrote the Firefox core, which was definitely good for performance and stability. The change also coincided with the deprecation of XUL addons, which removed a lot of desktop addons as well.

      Ever since the rewrite, they’ve kept a small whitelist of addons that usually mostly work. You can make your own list of addons in the settings if you run the beta/nightly version. A lot of addons don’t work, though, because the UI elements that they interact with aren’t available (yet) on mobile.

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    not sure what’s new here, I’ve been using firefox with ublock origin on my phone for years. glad that it’s getting more attention though

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      So this is technically returning an old feature. Prior to the admittedly much, much needed revamp of the app, basically any desktop addon would “just work” on mobile. After the update, only select addons approved by mozilla “just work”, for all other addons you have to use the dev/nightly build of the app and then enable a config flag. This new update is essentially a return to the old system for addons but without sacrificing the performance benefits the revamp brought.

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      Well, firefox nightly (playstore), fennec (fdroid), or mull (fdroid) supported them all but you had to manually put them in a collection on your profile first. I’d assume this announcement gets rid of all that.

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      It supports some, and you can force others to work with a bunch of hacky workarounds

      This is a proper extension store announcement.

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      Unless things have changed, Apple’s policy of generally not allowing programs to download executable code would block this. Browsers are locked into using Apple’s allowed web engines because of this, so basically every browser on iOS is safari or re-themed safari

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        There are some browsers that have extensions on iOS, notably Orion (which unfortunately is iOS and MacOS only, no Windows)

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      The Orion browser on iOS currently allows the use of some Firefox and Chrome extensions, including uBlock Origin.

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      Orion Browser should do fine with WebExtension support (from both Chrome and Firefox add-on stores) until Mozilla steps ahead.

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        Unfortunately they don’t have a Windows version which means no native syncing bookmarks and history

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      It looks like support is either up to the developer or simply optimization is up to the developer. They mention that extension devs should start optimizing their desktop extensions for mobile but doesn’t say whether that’s required or simply suggested as a non-optimized extension may not work properly.

      But theoretically, any extension at the very least could be made to work on mobile. It appears to be an open system as opposed to now where it’s only approved ones.

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      Thankfully those are only getting more popular unlike things like Windows phone back in the day. Hopefully it will continue improving over time

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        Fingers crossed. Especially since Google now makes a foldable. They have a vested interest to make the experience better.

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      Safari mobile is a great browser, but it does not support desktop! extensions, just mobile ones from Apple’s store.

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      Also Firefox mobile already supports (a tiny limited subset of) extensions. And the version before their big UI overhaul supported extensions from the add-on store - although it would be unusable if you loaded up too many.

      The big change is that the new shinier faster version of Firefox will now support their new desktop extension platform - and probably run them much more efficiently.

      Pretty sure the person who wrote this headline only ever used Chrome mobile.

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        Its not too intuitive to find extensions. For instance, there’s no extensions store. You search in the App Store. Some apps by default come with an extension (1Password, Apollo, etc.)

        Adblock is actually good. So good that I had to uninstall because the shopping links from Google didn’t work!

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    I keep forgetting it’s not a normal thing. I’ve been on Firefox Nightly plus uBlock for a long time and it works great.