Yes, I’m the one in the group DM that turns the bubbles green, I’m sorry.

But other than that, I don’t hear many other reasons why people actually prefer iPhones over Androids. What other reasons are there?

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    I use an iPhone 12 because:

    • longevity. Between software updates and an over powered phone cpu I know it will last. Android phones in general barely get security updates.

    • Simplicity. I used to root and install ROMs on my android phone. I used to jailbreak iPhones. I’m done with that now. I do enough technical work at work I don’t want to have to mess with my phone.

    • Security. Ties into updates somewhat, but how often do you hear about iOS malware? It is usually big news when you do.

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      Not sure why this is downvoted so much. These are very valid points.

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        Well for one thing Apple rather famously slows down its old phones and lost a lawsuit over it. Apple has plenty of merits but longevity is definitely not one of them.

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          This keeps getting repeated and it gets further from the truth every time. Apple was throttling phones whose batteries were so bad the phone would shut off when trying to draw peak power. They should have had a message saying, “Replace your Fuckin battery dude”, rather than just throttling the phones, and that’s exactly what the lawsuit made them do. It’s not the case that apple went, “oh this phone is old, slow it down.” At all.

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            What’s more, they then gave discounted battery replacements to phones of the most-effected generations. As in, for like $50 or something the phone went back to working essentially like new (and had better battery life again to boot).

            If their goal with the battery health throttling was to make money by forcing people to buy new phones, they sure went about it in a weird way. 😆

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              They only offered that cheap battery replacement after the lawsuit was filed.

              Thats not an act of kindness, thats ass covering. They then settled the class action about the secret throttling for $300+ millon.

              Not exactly just an “opps, we forget to mention what we were doing for your phones health for years, really guys” situation. In every possible way, they were silently hobbling the performance of old phones, which directly helped their sales of new phones.

              The right thing to do was very simple : alert people and offer inexpensive battery replacements. We know it was very simple because they did it immediately when their duplicity was revealed in a court of law. Now ask youself why they didnt do it for years.

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                Iirc they offered battery replacement as part of a settlement, and had an os update out that gave detailed battery health information before that went down and outside of it.

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          I don’t see how that point is relevant as that claim was never made.

          The claim was that Android phones usually barely get updates which maps to my experience. Updates more than one or two years after the release of a device is the exception, not the norm.

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            Which is also not true, most android deviced i have used got updates every 3-5 months with some small security patches between them.

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              For the first year or two, that’s common. Getting feature updates for anything even approaching >5 years is near unthinkable for Android devices however. You only get that with custom ROMs and even there it’s only half of the story as they can’t provide security updates for vendor blobs which is kind of a big yikes.

              The iPhone 8 will get cut off the newest feature updates in the upcoming iOS 17; 6 years after launch. Security updates will likely be available for years to come. For comparison, my OnePlus 5 from 2017 (1 year younger) received its last update (any update whatsoever) in 2020 (3 years ago).

              With an Android device, you’d be lucky to get security patches in any regularity at all, much less >3 years after release. That only happens with a couple few vendors who actually care such as Nokia and maybe Google (to a degree).

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                For my custom rom i get vendor updates and theres about 1 update per month, open source devs are really

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                  The vendor blobs in custom ROMs come from the stock vendor ROM. When the vendor stops publishing their stock ROM, the custom ROM’s will also stop coming. In some cases some BLOBs can be taken from similar devices that might be supported a bit longer but I believe this is quite rare.

                  The ROM itself still gets updates through the AOSP but vendor BLOBs stay where they are and open source devs can do little to nothing about that.

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                    Couldn’t find anything about that online, could you please give me the source of that information?

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              I am not sure which second paragraph you’re referencing as your original comment only contains one.

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                Ah sorry, still getting used to this UI, thought that was in reply to a different level comment.

                Updates more than one or two years after the release of a device is the exception, not the norm.

                Through the AOSP, many android phones are maintained indefinitely by the community. But I agree that proprietary firmware blobs don’t get maintained for nearly as long as they should.

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                  Custom ROMs are a thing of course. I use them too. Custom ROMs are, again, the exception rather than the norm however; most people use the stock ROMs and that’s what I was referencing.