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Attached: 1 video Now the climate crisis is self-evident, a common argument by those who STILL defend polluters is that “NZ is too small to make a difference, and so shouldn’t have to stop intensive dairy farming or driving Ford rangers to school in Auckland” Rod Carr destroys it in this mic-drop moment. #climate #climatechange #climatecrisis #nzpol #newzealand

Now the climate crisis is self-evident, a common argument by those who STILL defend polluters is that “NZ is too small to make a difference, and so shouldn’t have to stop intensive dairy farming or driving Ford rangers to school in Auckland”

Rod Carr destroys it in this mic-drop moment.

  • BalpeenHammer@lemmy.nz
    13·
    1 year ago

    I disagree. I don’t think .1 degree matters and I don’t think there is anything we can do to cool the earth by .1 degree or even prevent another .1 degree rise.

    It’s truly too late. Even we got to carbon zero tomorrow the carbon in the atmosphere right now is going to have devastating impact for years to come.

    Our only hope is that we somehow missed a feedback mechanism and it kicks in.

      • BalpeenHammer@lemmy.nz
        11·
        1 year ago

        The IPCC has been drastically underestimating the rates and magnitude of climate change in all of their forecasts. It’s clear they are putting politics and PR above science in order not to panic the population.

        I just don’t trust them to represent the actual science in the matter.

          • BalpeenHammer@lemmy.nz
            12·
            1 year ago

            This has nothing to do with trust. They put out forecasts and we know with 100% certainty that all of their forecasts underestimated how much warming there was going to be and how fast.

            Why would you give them your blind trust after such a performance?

            Do you really believe they were wrong in all of their previous forecasts but now they are right?

            And to counter your disgusting accusation that I am anti science:

            The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change is an intergovernmental body of the United Nations. It’s not “the climate scientists”. It’s a political body and it’s obvious that it’s white washing what their scientists are telling them and bowing to political pressure.

            So fuck off with your insult and calling me a science denier.

              • BalpeenHammer@lemmy.nz
                11·
                1 year ago

                Where is the scientific evidence that says it’s too late and there’s nothing we can do?

                The collection of studies which show that all the predictions of the IPCC so far have underestimated both the magnitude and the velocity of climate change.

                  • BalpeenHammer@lemmy.nz
                    1·
                    1 year ago

                    But it’s a huge jump from “things are worse than we thought” to “things are hopeless, there’s nothing we can do”.

                    It’s not a huge jump.

                    Have you seen this?

                    https://www.axios.com/2023/05/01/ocean-temperature-spike-climate

                    If we bring emissions down to near zero by around 2050, things will be way better than they could be.

                    What makes you think that’s even possible. There has not been one year in the entire history of mankind where global carbon emissions were less than the previous year. How do you think we will get to zero.