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      11 months ago

      Let me guess, you think some far left candidate will have broader appeal than the centrist? Far too many on the fediverse seem to have difficulty understanding the realities of first-past-the-post.

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        11 months ago

        They ignore the reality of their suddenly disliking Biden & the lack of time on fielding a viable candidate. They didn’t condemn Biden during the 2021 Israel–Palestine crisis. They don’t know that Trump halted US funds to UNRWA & Biden reversed that. Skipped out on state Democratic conventions despite polling showing Democrat support for Palestine exceed Israel support & they could have tried to push for party platform changes. If they dislike Biden as much as they claim, then why did they not fund a PAC or challenger years ago?

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            11 months ago

            Nothing has ever changed with US-Israel military sales & cooperation. Biden has never championed that he was ever going to end or limit that. Again why did all the “concerned” voter not make an effort to charge the Democratic party platform or support a candidate or effort from the get go?

            Quite frankly I question the seriousness of anyone who just became “concerned” now.

            https://www.state.gov/u-s-security-cooperation-with-israel/

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                11 months ago

                Feel free to change their view but be rational about it.

                They still have enough time to rally around US House & Senate candidates to advocate for issues such as this. Field a PAC or some kind of effort for 2028 if this is their first foray into single issue voting. Learn about power of down ballot. Get involved with local/state political party perhaps consider joining another one if you are so opposed to the Democratic one.

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                  11 months ago

                  And every one of those is a rational well thought out plan, I give you that the 2020 is in the lake for every person you guys between now and the end because our present continues to give them weaponry after he has seen what they do with it. I don’t want the guy who makes those kind of choices in charge of my country. You have still have two months before the primaries when that’s locked in.

                  Choose a better person.

                  To quote a movie, if we burn you burn with us.

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                    11 months ago

                    First off I’m not that worried about the threat. The attention span of these “concerned” voters is going to wane quickly. They didn’t care in 2021 they will probably fizzle out in 2024 especially if the tempo of war changes, already the civilian causality rate in Gaza has gone down considerably & even the Biden administration is demanding Israel to state goals/conditions for our support to continue(evidence of our bargaining power with UN votes). President Biden is toughening our stance to bring Two-state solution back to the table which isn’t in focus sadly in Israel. This is why he is a billion times better than the opposition or any other alternative.

                    To quote a movie, if we burn you burn with us.

                    Right there in your response shows the naivety of how to handle a LONG term issue with short-term action. No matter if Hamas is destroyed or another round of ceasefires occurs the Palestinians will have to rebuild and need aid. They really need & deserve more than that honestly. Lets survey the current landscape, UN is pulling peacekeepers out of Africa & decreasing funds to food aid globally. Are anti-UN candidates such as Cornell West, Any GOP candidate, Robert Kennedy Jr., or others really going to be able to reverse that? Will known “America First” republicans & progressives that favor “Spend Money here first/only” politicians going to be good for Palestinians?

                    Sure, they can wish to burn it down in hopes it makes them feel better for some weird reason. Just not sure it achieves anything than making it worse for Palestinians. If they believe they have the ability to tank a presidential campaign, why not also (or only)focus Congressional or Senate primaries? Congress is the ones that authorizes weapon sales & could give more assistance to Palestinians. Congressional District represents 700K and Senate races are handled on a state level which should be easier than a National campaign. God knows a stronger effort is needed to prevent the censure let alone the expulsion of Pro-Palestinian legislators.

                    I guess it comes down to vibes or good feelings not the pragmatic efforts needed to actually achieve something.