• Peppycito@sh.itjust.works
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        7 months ago

        No, the constitution is holy! Like the Bible! And like the Bible, we’ll only use the bits we like, and we’ll obfuscate the bits that undermine our greed.

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          7 months ago

          Name a document harder to update than the US Constitution.

          And at least with the Bible, Christians, pathologically yet mercifully, pretend the awful stuff in it just doesn’t exist.

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        7 months ago

        Juuuust to be the devil’s advocate buuuuuut… Morality is subjective. Thus, from perspective of person believing that homosexuals are the scourge of the earth and the absolute evil just lying in wait to jump on “normal” people, it is moral to remove said scourge from the earth.

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          No, I see the perspective. I just think it’s laughable to attempt to push religious moralism as any sort of modern moral allignment because religious morals are ridiculous. If you can’t quote the morals from the bible, you shouldn’t push for people following the morals from the bible. And if you can quote the morals from the bible, you wouldn’t be advocating for them.

          Basically, anyone arguing that morals derive from religion is arguing in bad faith.

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            7 months ago

            And if you can quote the morals from the bible, you wouldn’t be advocating for them.

            Okay, we wouldn’t advocate for them. If you believe that God is the source of all that’s good, and I mean really believe, you can easily be blinded by that and accept it as your own morality. Same with being raised with it.

            Especially that, on surface, for example catholic morality is good. Killing is bad, stealing and being greedy is bad, being violent is bad, being false is bad…we pretty much agree to these things today. The deeper, more sinister things or things that are tied to God are the ones we ridicule today, like questioning God being bad or being homosexual or just different being bad.