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    They are all constructs which pit workers against each other and make us compete for the “privilege” of being a wage laborer.

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      Building up on this.

      In a vacuum these things just suck for the international working class movement, but with a dictatorship of the proletariat one can make use of them for the benefit of society.

      The CPC understood this and used outsourcing to actually develop their own productive forces (now many people from the imperial core want to migrate and work there, how the tables turn…). In contrast, the default global south liberal democracy is waiting for some kind of miracle to happen from the breadcrumbs left by the foreign investment.

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        That’s true. Like so many of the problems facing nations and societies, liberalism is unable to provide solutions, whereas a proletarian state not only provides solutions, but excels at improving the material conditions.

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    The visa process in general is an imposition on peoples’ ability to live and work wherever they want to work.

    Those who are seen as desirable have the carpet rolled out, while those seen as undesirables have state enforced precarity through legal or illegal immigration.

    They also largely exist to keep the global south in the global south.

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    It’s another race to the bottom.

    Right now the US has a monopoly on intelligence. If you’re super smart, capable, and can create a $1bln buisness, you’re probably going to move to the US, and the visas help support that.

    Other countries want at least some people to come too, so they offer the same visa programs.

    If no country offered work visas, these skills wouldn’t get concentrated, and that’s probably the better extreme.

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      The brain drain from non-Western nations is tragically real. Intelligent people will see more rewards in capitalist nations and relocate there to help themselves and their families. If capitalism didn’t produce such big inequality people would have less incentive to move there. Ideally we’d have intelligent people spread through the world and throughout many industries, but some jobs are rewarded better than others

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      I kind aagree. But a lot of visas are just people studying or wanting to live aomewhere else. But Its good for the furtherment of all trades, in tech for example if you have all the best in oneplace forward progress can come a lot faster. Or in Germany there is a thing for some blue collar workers where you go travel around the world and work to get experience. Search up Wandergesellen if you wanna know more

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    Work visas/permits are just proletarian bans. If you derive your survival from labour and are not allowed to work somewhere legally, your only survival options are to move elsewhere or work illegally. In Northwestern countries like the USA this is by design, because then immigrants/refugees without visas are coerced to work without their deserved rights which then becomes a justification to jail them and force them into prison slavery.