• Whaler_Shaver@lemmy.ca
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    11 months ago

    Despite these circumstances people complain from the comfort of their armchairs that the counteroffensive is going too slow.

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      The colors on the map need to change so that I know the big red arrow that I drew on the map is working.

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    11 months ago

    It’s going to take a lot of brave people and a lot of money to demine Ukraine. Luckily, Ukrainians are very brave and they have some extremely rich friends.

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    Can cluster bombing the entire field detonate all of the mines to clear the path? Might take a lot of bombs but it’s gotta be faster than de-mining by hand.

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      Can it clear some mines? Absolutely, you can blow up minefields. Can it clear ALL mines? Very likely not.

      Mines can explode from getting hit, but AT mines are far more likely to just get flung away a bit, and will just sit in their new position, probably in between craters. So you’ll have fewer mines, but also less passable terrain. And more dirt, and less predictable ground too.

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        Craters could be advantageous. Bring lots of dirt that you know is clean, plug the craters with said dirt with combat bulldozers, then get your tanks through quickly before the enemy can call in artillery.

        Easier said than done though, and there still will be casualties.

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      They have custom launched destination lines they can use too. I think that’s cheaper and more controllable than cluster munitions. But sometimes the mine fields are deep enough you need two or three shots to get all the way through.

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      Yes, and there’s a reason the recommended placement distances, if one of these goes off it’s going to sympathetically setoff others.

      The easy way is det cord jammed into defused grenades to make a ghetto mclc and well bravery mixed with a bit of stupidity wouldn’t hurt.

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      I think that there’s a 5% failure rate of cluster bombs. So if you drop a few, there will be a few UXOs still laying around.

      Best bet is to use a MICLIC or those mine sniffing rats.

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      11 months ago

      That was my initial thought as well. Or if you needed a clear path across, specifically bomb one out so you could be sure you aren’t walking through that. I have no idea how practical that would be though.

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    @LaFinlandia The density of these is so big that they don’t even bother covering them. Or maybe they simply used one of those mine-laying vehicles that drops them in series on a conveyor belt or something

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    According to a quick Google, the only thing that detonates the plastic explosive in TM-62s is a shockwave, which is how the primer detonates the mine.

    So something that generates shockwaves violent enough to get through their casing over a wide area might work on all the exposed mines.

    It might not be as effective on mines that are buried.